Anyone know if this is true or not?

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    Not surprised. stripe, PayPal, visa and Mastercard wouldn’t just give up to millions of dollars in fees just because a small Australian group asked for it

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    They’ve been playing the very long game of trying to control human behavior for centuries, not just decades. The one thing to note is that the United States began as a bunch of colonies run by ministers, and the fundies want to go back to that theocratic form of rule. That by the 19th century the temperance movement came from the dozens of Christian subsects. Yeah, they also extended it to anything that did not define as “Christian” behavior, including choice of ideologies (socialism = bad), gender (male or female = good), source of knowledge (Bible > science), beliefs (they have veiled Islamophobia), and even eating and sexual habits.

    Now – based on their basic blueprint – they want to artificially induce the Second Coming by trying to get their fucking project off the ground, and impose control on everyone else.

    BTW, any collapse or devolution of the United States and the Western world would come off as a wonderful realization for Putin, Dugin, Kyrill, and their cronies. That Jesus himself in his actual Middle Eastern appearance and acts of progressivism would be considered an enemy by fundies expecting a “whitened” Jesus.

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      First paragraph is about what I found out myself. Might add to that that they are the ones responsible for the American mindset of sex and nipples.

      And yes, Jesus definitely looked like the one who would be selected for a “random intensive control not based on individual suspicion” at the airport. He was born in today’s Israel after all, parents from there as well.

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      They? For centuries? Who is “they” that has been this organized for “centuries”? The fucking illuminati? The masonic order?

      Maybe you’re exaggerating a bit?

  • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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    these people have been planning on this for lot longer than a year. christians have been trying to ban video games for decades. the only reason this group hasn’t come after more games is because they know they don’t yet have enough politicians behind them to manage it.

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        I don’t want to come off as pedantic, but what we’re dealing with in the US is a very strange and successful breed of “Christian Nationalism.”

        Essentially, it’s a belief that ultra-conservative Christianity is the only legitimate religion and that the USA is a Christian nation.

        It probably comes as no surprise that these people heavily influenced the Confederacy, is strongly white-supremecist, anti-vice, etc, and has been an anathema in this country since before the states actually formed.

        Christians themselves are… A problem, but not the problem. It’s these Christian nationalists. They’re loud. They want you to think all Christians believe what they do too. They also tend to drown out opposing Christian speakers by being louder than them too.

        It’s one of the reasons why MLK Jr was hated so much by Hoover, by the south, etc. He was a Christian pastor, and stood against everything they did.

        It’s important that we don’t group Christians in with Christian Nationalists. It’s very difficult but necessary.

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          I do agree, but I still think that all religions are a cancer on humanity, harming us, dividing us and holding us back. Religion is the enemy of progress.

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            Humans are the ones that are harming and dividing us. If religion is gone they’ll find a new way to do it. Us vs them mentality is part of human nature and has always attached itself to anything that can be called ours vs theirs. Religion, politics, sports, skin color, language, the fucking phone brand you use, you name it.

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        Its Republicans. Don’t blame the religion. Republicans want fascism and they want to control everyone’s thoughts and behaviors because they’re wired to be subservient to authoritarians. They hate that so many of us have a mind of our own.

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          I’ll happily blame all religion, thank you. Nobody should build a worldview where an unaccountable (and imperceptible) third party is responsible for moral decisions.

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        Painting with such a broad brush is how these people got to where they are now, don’t make the same mistakes they did.

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          Lmao thanks for the heads-up, past me.

          Edit: this user thinks that equal rights for women are Islamophobic.

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            Wait, how do you get that? I also use Voyager, but not seeing that :/

            Edit: it’s called user tags. It’s not shared as far I’m concerned.

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              Press and hold on any user and you can add a tag. It is incredibly useful for a myriad of reasons. I started implementing a system for sharing/community tags but I didn’t like the implications of having a parallel voting system to the existing one and scrapped it.

              Edit: the best part of the feature is that it can link you to why you created the tag. In this case the user in question argued that supporting women’s rights is the same thing as Islamophobia.

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                Edit: Messed up a copy/paste.

                I couldn’t find the exact context of what you linked, but down from it I saw your opinion, which I don’t agree with, and doesn’t say what you’re claiming now.

                I honestly don’t understand what you’re asking of me. Women having equal rights is a binary thing, they either do or don’t.

                This is wrong. They can be equal in some parts and unequal in others. No culture gives identical rights to all other cultures. There are degrees to equality. It isn’t all or nothing. I would say most of the west is more equal than countries that follow Islam as a state religion, but most of them don’t have total equality. I assume you agree with that, right? And Saudi Arabia is better than Iran, right? Not significantly, but there are degrees to it, right?

                Painting it as binary all or nothing is wrong, and probably is antithetical to progress. If it’s all or nothing, and something would take a step in the right direction, then why take that step if it isn’t all the way, right? Treating it as binary is bad.

        • AstaKask@lemmy.cafe
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          Religion is the closest thing to true evil that exist on this planet. Insane cultists shouldn’t be allowed around children. Not even their own (they tend to mutilate them in order to mark them as members of their insane cult).

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        The bullshit going on in the USA under the christian name is short sighted, stupid and lacks empathy. Christianity isn’t USA fundamentalism tho.

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      5 hours ago

      christians have been…

      A few closeted and bitter homosexuals in denial have been…

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      11 hours ago

      It will never happen on a large scale. Not as long as there is this much money to be made. I have no doubts these freaks will keep trying and make our lives harder, though.

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    10 hours ago

    Anthony Comstock.

    J. Edgar Hoover.

    Joseph McCarthy.

    Roy Cohn.

    Donald Trump.

    Willful traitors all. Have it writ upon thy meager graves, “destroyed the union just so people wouldn’t masturbate.”

    There’s more, I know. But those fellas are all linked.

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    So how does this tie into what’s happening now? Part of Vought and Project 2025’s plans are to remove Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA). This law currently protects platform holders, providing immunity for any content uploaded to said platform that third-party users created.

    By removing Section 230, platform holders, like Steam, would be liable for any “illegal” content uploaded to the platform, as opposed to those creating and uploading said content. If Steam were found guilty of hosting this content, the company could be hit with huge fines. Therefore, Steam, Itch, and many other platforms would likely place a blanket ban on any adult content, mitigating any risk of fines or other legal action. This, as pointed out on Reddit, would affect all forms of user-generated content, including fan art, mods, and videos, not just games themselves.

    Seems like a deceptive headline.

    The real takeaway is: Project 2025 guy also wants to do the platform-level censorship thing, but by removing legal protections (Section 230) instead of using payment processors.

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      Hear me out: what if repealing section 230 would end up killing our social media monoculture, since it would be impossible for these platforms to operate. Instead, what if people had to host their content themselves, you know, like we did back in the day, when the Internet was fun.

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        I don’t know when you’re talking about, but it probably wasn’t self hosting, unless you’re talking about like original internet stuff. GeoCities, for example, was not self-hosting. It was hosting your content on their platform.

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        LLMs would be liable for every hallucination.

        But how do you enforce it? When the internet crashes out into millions of websites again? When the people who made it happen are the people bad ones and they only go after messaging they don’t like?

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        The wild runaway success of Gmail proves that federation as a concept is currently not understood by the masses. I have lots of faith but little hope that more learning will be done on a large scale.

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          Yeah, the only way I see it happening is if it’s done in a way that’s invisible to users. Even then, I don’t know if it’s a good idea. Either you store a copy of all content locally or your content is only available when your server (presumably your computer or phone for most users) is online. Most people aren’t going to have to storage space for self-hosting federated content that’s distrubuted, and having people go down constantly from turning their computer off is far from ideal.

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      11 hours ago

      Yeah I started to read comments on other sites and theres a LOT of speculation on this. But the actual article is pretty small. Thanks for breaking it down even further.

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    Oh hey. GamerGate was used by Christian fundamentalists to censor video games. How interesting. I thought they cared about Freeze Peach?

    Just stopped over there. They are downvoting anyone who brings up price hikes from tariffs. Their handlers are not happy with the few coming to their senses.

    It’s almost like they are pathetic cult members. Who can’t give an inch in an intelligent conversation. Fucking losers.

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    11 hours ago

    Did you read all 900 pages? I sure skimmed but didn’t read it fully. Its entirely possible.

    More importantly, if we dont act collectively all over the globe to end this tide of fascism only more sensorship will come.

    This is not an end but a beginning.

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    Can anyone ELI5 this issue for me? At first i thought they were going after those weird upskirt and borderline anime cp games. Are they going after every 18+ game now?

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    Thank god they can’t do shit to TPB and its ilk since those are already illegal anyway.

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    Neigsendoig and I are not really surprised by this. We had an inkling this was part of Project 2025. In particular, they just wanted Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act removed, though they were already censoring using foreign censorship partners even before P2025.

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      I don’t understand the hate, so I’ll try explaining myself and either redeem myself or dig myself deeper.

      Religious zealots have been trying to ban explicit material since forever.

      Saying Project 2025 caused the Steam ban is like saying Tipper Gore caused Project 2025.

      EDIT: Ok, I went back to make sure I didn’t miss something, and I did. This 2025 guy’s group pressured the payment companies to put the squeeze on steam, who folded like a house of cards.

      My bad, he did kind of cause this, or at least instigate it.