I feel like we just need to split comics. Whole point of lemmy is to basically allow us to fragment. so mods of world comics don’t care, why not pick an instance make a comic strips with a banned author list. If more people would like to be free of comics from unsavory authors they can move there.
His point (and point of people like him) isn’t to just not see certain comics as for this they would use a simple “block” button. Their point is to dictate to other people what they can see.
Funnily enough, all these people moaning are usually the same who pretty much never contribute any strips to this community.
It’s not a block button. It’s a mute button. It means that the user who is muted can still see and interact with the posts and comments of the user who muted them. But the user who muted them can’t see or interact with the user they muted.
A block would work the way it does on places like Tumblr where regardless of who blocks who the accounts can no longer interact or see each other.
This is problematic specifically because I don’t trust you (or most people) to no abuse this work around. I don’t trust you specifically because you could have been blocking people who don’t like the content you post this whole time and yet here you are.
I also feel like given your reaction to things when proof has been provided that you don’t argue in good faith. That’s based on reading your comments just in this thread.
I don’t care if they ban you or don’t. I do care that the comics you post are having a detrimental effect on the community and you don’t seem to care about that. If you’re not here to build the community then I question your motives.
Which means he won’t be able to see what he doesn’t like.
A block would work the way it does on places like Tumblr where regardless of who blocks who they accounts can no longer interact or see each other.
Agreed - I wouldn’t mind blocking people to stop them complaining (I tried!) but it is sadly not an option. They need to use block button themselves.
. I do care that the comics you post are having a detrimental effect on the community
No, that’s not true.
you don’t seem to care about that
Also not true.
If you’re not here to build the community
I am pretty sure this community would welcome yours and other complainers contribution, ie more comic strips. Sadly, I noticed more vocal people are with downvoting and complaining, less strips they contribute.
Your assumption seems to be that the only contribution you can make to a community you are a part of is to be a content poster. This simply isn’t true. There’s value in the conversations and interactions people have with the content and not everyone contributes the same way.
This assumption you are making clearly leads your other assumptions about value vs detrimental effects and you are obtuse about what you mean when you say things like :
No, that’s not true.
What’s not true? That you have a detrimental effect or that I don’t care? How do you make that determination? What information and data are you using to quantify it?
I’m especially curious because as far as I can tell what ever “isn’t true” is just your opinion and it’s a singular one vs the opinions of several people which is where I’m quantifying my own data.
You can say you do care but actions speak louder than words.
If your only solution is to demand the action of others without examining your own actions when those actions are called out then we are having two different arguments here and you should stick to one topic at a time.
“Hundreds of people dislike or find fault with my actions so they should block me” is a statement that doesn’t actually have any thought behind it.
This is a comic community. If you are not placing any comics, you are not contributing. Nobody comes here to read comments, users are here to read comics.
That’s adorable but naive. That’s not how communities work.
Do you tell the people in your house that since they don’t contribute they aren’t worthwhile?
Also, you can stop trying to shift this to being about what other people contribute. What you contribute and how others view it is the subject. Moving the goal post because you are under fire is not acceptable.
I know it may come to you as a shock but nobody comes here to read your comments. Ergo, you are not contributing.
Instead you are trying to lecture others what contributions are allowed. Start contributing yourself and then we can have a discussion about the value of each other contribution.
No there’s a valid point to not want to be a part of a community that platforms the individuals. and I can certainly see a valid point in why blocking doesn’t solve it. 1. different users post from the artists, it’s not going to be met at an individual level.
IMO it should be a community level decision.
Though that’s why I still hold to the suggestion that this scism is large enough that a community should be made. Because I can agree with the concept, if the mods in a community don’t agree, making a new community is a solution
no, i want the community to do that. i don’t understand why you’re always so aggressive in these threads. lemmy is not the place for that sort of behaviour.
but… i don’t have a personal problem with it? why aren’t you answering my question? you’re giving canned responses now, like i’m some sort of militant hater, rather than actually give a reason for what you’re doing
I would strongly recommend you take your own advice and block people as necessary. Your comments are bordering on goading, and that too will not be tolerated.
i answered in the previous post: i personally don’t mind it but i care about making people feel safe in this space. now you answer me.
I feel like we just need to split comics. Whole point of lemmy is to basically allow us to fragment. so mods of world comics don’t care, why not pick an instance make a comic strips with a banned author list. If more people would like to be free of comics from unsavory authors they can move there.
His point (and point of people like him) isn’t to just not see certain comics as for this they would use a simple “block” button. Their point is to dictate to other people what they can see.
Funnily enough, all these people moaning are usually the same who pretty much never contribute any strips to this community.
It’s not a block button. It’s a mute button. It means that the user who is muted can still see and interact with the posts and comments of the user who muted them. But the user who muted them can’t see or interact with the user they muted.
A block would work the way it does on places like Tumblr where regardless of who blocks who the accounts can no longer interact or see each other.
This is problematic specifically because I don’t trust you (or most people) to no abuse this work around. I don’t trust you specifically because you could have been blocking people who don’t like the content you post this whole time and yet here you are.
I also feel like given your reaction to things when proof has been provided that you don’t argue in good faith. That’s based on reading your comments just in this thread.
I don’t care if they ban you or don’t. I do care that the comics you post are having a detrimental effect on the community and you don’t seem to care about that. If you’re not here to build the community then I question your motives.
Which means he won’t be able to see what he doesn’t like.
Agreed - I wouldn’t mind blocking people to stop them complaining (I tried!) but it is sadly not an option. They need to use block button themselves.
No, that’s not true.
Also not true.
I am pretty sure this community would welcome yours and other complainers contribution, ie more comic strips. Sadly, I noticed more vocal people are with downvoting and complaining, less strips they contribute.
Your assumption seems to be that the only contribution you can make to a community you are a part of is to be a content poster. This simply isn’t true. There’s value in the conversations and interactions people have with the content and not everyone contributes the same way.
This assumption you are making clearly leads your other assumptions about value vs detrimental effects and you are obtuse about what you mean when you say things like :
What’s not true? That you have a detrimental effect or that I don’t care? How do you make that determination? What information and data are you using to quantify it?
I’m especially curious because as far as I can tell what ever “isn’t true” is just your opinion and it’s a singular one vs the opinions of several people which is where I’m quantifying my own data.
You can say you do care but actions speak louder than words.
If your only solution is to demand the action of others without examining your own actions when those actions are called out then we are having two different arguments here and you should stick to one topic at a time.
“Hundreds of people dislike or find fault with my actions so they should block me” is a statement that doesn’t actually have any thought behind it.
This is a comic community. If you are not placing any comics, you are not contributing. Nobody comes here to read comments, users are here to read comics.
That’s adorable but naive. That’s not how communities work.
Do you tell the people in your house that since they don’t contribute they aren’t worthwhile?
Also, you can stop trying to shift this to being about what other people contribute. What you contribute and how others view it is the subject. Moving the goal post because you are under fire is not acceptable.
I know it may come to you as a shock but nobody comes here to read your comments. Ergo, you are not contributing.
Instead you are trying to lecture others what contributions are allowed. Start contributing yourself and then we can have a discussion about the value of each other contribution.
No there’s a valid point to not want to be a part of a community that platforms the individuals. and I can certainly see a valid point in why blocking doesn’t solve it. 1. different users post from the artists, it’s not going to be met at an individual level.
IMO it should be a community level decision.
Though that’s why I still hold to the suggestion that this scism is large enough that a community should be made. Because I can agree with the concept, if the mods in a community don’t agree, making a new community is a solution
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Rule 1.
This conversation is getting out of hand.
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I wasnt the one who removed that comment.
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Why would I block you?
In other words, you want to dictate other people what they are able to see.
no, i want the community to do that. i don’t understand why you’re always so aggressive in these threads. lemmy is not the place for that sort of behaviour.
In this case I suggest you need to block and move on with your life. Good bye.
but… i don’t have a personal problem with it? why aren’t you answering my question? you’re giving canned responses now, like i’m some sort of militant hater, rather than actually give a reason for what you’re doing
The answer to your question seems to be that he’s a contrarian. Feel free to correct me, but that’s what it looks like from where I’m standing.
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just because of that i will continue to moan :)
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My guy, if you prefer to keep moaning instead of blocking, be my guest. Counterproductive but hell, yeah - knock yourself out.
I would strongly recommend you take your own advice and block people as necessary. Your comments are bordering on goading, and that too will not be tolerated.
Ok.
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For fucks sake. The mods are really 24/7 running cover for the posters of bigoted comics.
We don’t tolerate ableism here. They were calling the OP “mentally disabled” as an insult and advising them to get tested.
If you don’t think it’s ableism just because it’s supporting your side of the argument, then so be it; I do.
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