• coyootje@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    While I agree with the sentiment, I’m not sure if the current democrats have enough of a spine to oust the sitting president, even if they get enough of a majority…

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          2 days ago

          Keep at it, or people like Bernie won’t even try.

          Down ballot is even more important, because those are races you can affect. There’s only 15-20,000 people voting in most US House primaries.

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        3 days ago

        I agree with that sentiment, shame I’m not actually from the US. My in-laws are but they’re (allegedly) too disconnected from politics to care. I still feel like they might be closeted Trumpers that don’t want to openly say so but who knows.

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            2 days ago

            Well I have been hearing them complain more about it being more difficult to make ends meet. Perhaps that’ll finally make them rethink their political stance.

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              2 days ago

              I mean just stating the endless facts, would be enough for a somewhat sane person to grasp how fucking awful this current administration is. There’s endless fuel every day. Just collect a list of the worst stuff, you can still fill the whole day with a fairly neutral list of facts… That should be enough motivation to vote them away…

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                But if they don’t care, some facts won’t change that.

                And if they believe that Kamala would have been worse, you are done.

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                  2 days ago

                  sane person

                  If you don’t care about getting poorer everyday, well you probably aren’t a sane person. Unfortunately the amount of insane people in the US seems to be growing for some time I guess…

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                    2 days ago

                    If they don’t care about politics at this point, I can’t declare them sane by any means.

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      4 days ago

      You think if the most unbelievable thing happened and a Democrat won every election to somehow hold both a majority in the House and 60 votes in the Senate, they wouldn’t toss him out?

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      4 days ago

      If Democrats think we’re mad now wait till they see how mad we get if we give them a supermajority and they don’t do anything.

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      4 days ago

      even if they get enough of a majority…

      And there’s the rub.

      The House is one thing, the Senate another. Only 1/3 of the current Senate seats go up for election, and the majority of seats up for vote that are currently held by Republicans are from very safe Republican stronghold states. I don’t think there’s a chance that the Dems get control of the Senate, even if they gain a couple seats.

      As for the “problem” Dems, Fetterman isn’t up for reelection. Schumer isn’t up for reelection. Kaine isn’t up for reelection. Shaheen and Durbin are at least retiring, but none of the other sellouts are on the ballot until 2028 at the earliest.

      Best we can hope for is that the House flips to a Democratic majority (a supermajority is still beyond question) and that turns the next two years into an ineffectual lame duck Congress. But it’s not like that’d be all that different from the situation right now anyways, because Trump has demonstrated he doesn’t give a shit about Congress and will just issue illegal executive orders for everything he wants to do, while the courts twiddle their thumbs and maybe question the legality of his actions 10 years from now.

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        Well, there’s a pattern with this kind of thing. File a bill on a popular issue when they’re in the minority, but just flat out ignore the issue when they’ve taken the majority.

        Not feeling arsed enough to dig up examples, probably because I’ve given in to cynicism on the matter. But I doubt it would take much digging for anybody curious…

        Edit: from my feed today-

        Oh, wait, that doesn’t happen, so I’m the one imaging things. 🙄

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              “This is totally true, but I’m not going to give a single example. But trust me, it totally is”.

              Yawn.

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                Couldn’t care less if you trust me. Don’t even care about your misplaced trust in politicians. Your loss, after all.

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                    2 days ago

                    Stole this image from my feed. I didn’t even have to do any research and found an example.

                    But you don’t like my argument, so I must be wrong.

                    How’s that for “cute”, dumbass?