Pretty wild! All states give you at least 30 days to dump your baby, no strings attached. Some states give you 60 days!
I feel like more people should know about this! It seems like a highly under utilized ability.
From what height am I allowed to drop off my child?
/s
Reasonable. Now who’s gonna bet that some dip shit in Washington makes it illegal because “mothers should face the consequences of their decisions” or some bullshit.
Call me a cynical old bitch but when the US does something reasonable I always think “how they gonna fuck it up this time?”
Can you drop off your baby, once a month, for a couple of hours on a date night?
There is something similar called “baby hatch” in Germany, but those are usually located at hospitals. Why the fire station? It makes no sense to me.
Fire stations are more anonymous, however you can give up rights to your child at Fire Stations, Police Stations, and Hospitals (far as we know) there are even some numbers and child protection will pick them up. Reason is because they rather take the child safely than deal with well… yk
Why the fire station?
they’re staffed 24/7
Fire stations are everywhere, staffed by trustworthy people, who inevitably also have medical training. Additionally they aren’t scary like the police are.
They’re the people you call if you need help.You can surrender an infant at a hospital too, as well as a police station, but fire stations are just more frequent.
Hospitals in the US are kind of scattered, largely as a result of private equity tomfoolery. A lot of communities don’t have one nearby. But pretty much every community has at least a volunteer fire station, and I believe all firefighters are required to be trained in at least first aid, if not be fully-qualified EMTs.
ALso they are in places that arnt easily reached too, and in busy traffic area, so not safe.
They are local to every town and always have people there
*US states
You understood it anyway
*US states
Why was that clarification necessary? In what context does “all 50 states” not apply to only the US?
Because there are other countries with states, like Mexico, Brazil, and India. Do you know how many states are in each country? Neither did I, until I looked some up. Mexico has 31 states, btw, and it’s causing my brain to itch with its odd number instead of even. There are no other countries with 50 states, but I didn’t know prior and now I have useless trivia folded into my melon.
Because there are other countries with states… There are no other countries with 50 states,
Exactly. So, what was the point of the USA clarification?
Because there are other countries with states, like Mexico, Brazil, and India. Do you know how many states are in each country? Neither did I, until I looked some up. Mexico has 31 states, btw, and it’s causing my brain to itch with its odd number instead of even. There are no other countries with 50 states, but I didn’t know prior and now I have useless trivia folded into my melon.
What other country has 50 states?
So if an article refered to ‘in the 36 states’ would you what country theyre talking about off the top of your head?
answer
Nigeria is the only country with exactly 36 states
There are plenty of complains of the web being US-centric, that i think its perfectly fair to state, and not expect everyone from every country to know how many states, just because its America.
I know! Nigeria!
A while back I fell into the rabbit hole of people dropping off the baby without informing the other parent. turns out it’s really hard to get the kid back
Omg, that is insane! Imagine coming home from work like
“Honey, I dropped the baby off at the fire station today and the fireman yelled ‘BACK BACK NO TRADE BACK’ when I handed it over, so I’m pretty sure the decision is final. I hope you weren’t too attached to the babe.”
“I dropped Billy off for camp at the fire station. What do you mean thats next week?”
What about a 956 month old toddler?
I’m sure as soon as that toddler goes into a fire, the orange will just disappear into the orange, and that will be that.
At least, one can hope.
They probably wont fit through the slot.
I think at that age, you just send them through the front door and call them a volunteer.
I’d be completely comfortable with doing whatever is necessary to make him fit through the slot, except for augmenting the slot in any way.
Couldn’t hurt to try… sounds very old tho TBH. Have you tried a retirement home?
We keep hoping, but he keeps throwing press conferences.
That’s functionally what the US congress is … so yes?
Yeah this directly came out of people abandoning babies in all sorts of place. Some places have these nest type of boxes all padded and temperature controlled where people can leave babies. This is the type of good thing I could see today republicans rallying to stop.
Before fire stations, churches and monasteries did the same thing. And like how some fire stations have a dedicated baby drop box, the churches and monasteries sometimes did, too.
now that is wild.
You can drop your baby off a fire station if you’ve got the time.
I thought you had to fill out a form or identify yourself or they’d do DNA on the baby to identify you. But this says parents can remain nameless. I’m not sure what that entails.
Literally no questions asked. A lot of fire stations even have special temperature-controlled compartments with alarms connected so that people can drop their baby off without even being seen.
Yeah from what I understand you can pull up, say the magic words, give no documentation of any type, then leave without the baby
That seems like it would open up a whole can of worms when, a decade later, your kid should be starting school. They ask you where he is and you have no documentation of what happened to him. Don’t they start asking serious legal questions about your “missing” kid, and accusing you of foul play?
this is important to prevent the issue of mothers leaving their babies in the dumpster instead. it’s sad they grow up an orphan, but better then the alternative by a mile.
Really? I mean, I wouldn’t just leave a baby in a dumpster. I’d wang it against the side a dozen times first. That’s 10+2 for the metrics out there!
That’s why you can drop them at the FD, so nobody does that.
What the fuck bro
Sometimes not even say words. This is truly basket-on-the-doorstep rules.
pro life truly is wonderful!
what
I assume they’re referring to the pro-life movement being responsible for creating a whole bunch of unwanted pregnancies/children because of their opposition to birth control measures and abortion. I also assume they are being sarcastic.
I guess the person is referring to the “Pro Life” movement (in a sarcastic way, I hope).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_anti-abortion_movement
yeah. in short: make more unwanted babies, drop off more babies. im glad to live somewhere abortions are legal. pro life is a nightmare.
Nebraska had no age limit for a bit. Guy dropped off 9 of his 10 kids(1 was 18) cause he felt overwhelmed after his wife died a year earlier.
“I think there’s a misperception that we just inadvertently left an age cap out. But the reality was we wanted to save lives of older kids who might be at risk,” said Amanda McGill Johnson, a Nebraska state senator at the time.
That actually kind of makes sense? I mean, dropping off teens is excessive, but maybe it highlights an issue? Overwhelmed parents of teenagers isn’t something I had on my list of people that need more help, at least.
That is surprisingly kind for a Nebraskan legislator. Isn’t NE one of the states where they’d rather let women die than abort a fetus?
No, they’d rather let the mother die and get a free child prostitute out of her than to abort a fetus.
I’m more concerned how he had ten kids and then felt overwhelmed when his wife left him. Like what the fuck?!
Grieving for a partner definitely doesn’t make it easier to raise your children?!
And I’ve not met many men with 10 kids who are super into doing the whole “dividing the labor of parenting evenly” thing, and I went to catholic schools, I knew some big families. And even if he had been the type to do that, you aren’t winding up being the breadwinner for a family with 10 kids and having both low stress finances and a low stress job. So adding in lots of extra home duties and possibly reduced financial capabilities and mourning will probably wreck you.
That said, I’ve never met a family that large where the parents kept actually parenting beyond number 3 or 4. Some of the most horrifically parentified people I ever met were middle daughters of large families. Also the kids are struggling too, and each of them is likely to have taken some lasting psychic damage from being abandoned by their dad, even temporarily, shortly after their mom died.
Died, not left.
And likely yeah, someone would get overwhelmed doing two peoples’ jobs.
Because he didn’t do Jack raising them probably
Or doubling the responsibilities was too much.
Double it and pass it to the next person
If doubling was to much, it would have been enough to “only” drop 4-5
As long as we are doing hypothetical, he may have been working long hours to pay for all the costs while she was stay at home. When she died, working all the time and trying to care for kids and grieving is going to be massively stressful. Bot to mention the aunt for 7 of the kids decided to have a custody battle so lots and lots of possible things leading to being overwhelmed.
But you clearly assume he is a deadbeat because he’s a man. Have fun with that.
What has him being a man to do with all that
Because he didn’t do Jack raising them probably
Would you have assumed the same lack of parenting if the father had died and the mother dropped off the kids?
10 kids jfc
I guess it highlights why there should be no age limit… the response to introduce an age limit of 30 days certainly is not the right one.
Wtf! That is insane 🤣 good read!
It’s better than leaving them in some men’s room baby changing station with the sign “Place sacrifice here” sign taped to it.
Better for most, but the rest area demon who is sustained on changing station sacrifices really hates this law.
Can you pick them up again at the end of the day? Free daycare would be nice.
Yes, the firemen tend to them until you’re ready to pick them up. It’s a wonderful service.
Back back no trade back!
All 50 states of what?
Matter
It starts solid, but then there liquid, gaseous…. Scientists will need to help me with the 47 others here…
Plasma
Bose Einstein Condensate
I mean, there’s like ~22 phases for ice alone.
Ice-nine when?
Right after ice-eight, ofc
Uh, the 50 states of our country? Surely you learned about them in elementary school.
The US is simply where the highest number of anglophones reside. You’d have to sum up the next three nations to get more English speakers than the US (according to worldatlas.com).
Assuming an English speaker on the internet is American is still rude, but not exactly a bad guess - and hardly chauvinism imo
Anglophone is an incorrect metric.
There are more non native English speakers than native English speakers.
On English websites and communities there is no difference between those two as long as the website or community is not specifically for that purpose.
Most people on Lemmy do not live in the US.
Again, and I’ve tried to be very clear about this, I’m not saying they’re correct. We agree that it’s a mistake. I’m explaining how it is an easy mistake to make.
This is a frustrating conversation.
For a while, I was trying to start all my comments with things like 'to add… ’ or, ‘just to clarify…’ if I was agreeing but context pr more info or whatever
etc since it seems like the default is to assume any response to a comment is conflict / disagreement.
May be time to bring that back
Some people are just influenced by the evil of Giygas, always on the attack. It’s not my job to hit them with a frying pan.
This is a frustrating conversation.
I feel this, deep in my bones, upon reading it.
I found this little cozy spot. I’m gonna curl up in a post right here. *spins 3 times and plops down
Around 1½ billion people in the world know English, less than ¼ of them live in the US.
I’d bet about 10% of them live in India alone! It’s been my experience that when people think about the global populace as a whole they don’t give India nearly as much weight as it warrants XD
Don’t do numbers at me, if a quarter of the roulette wheel says USA we both know where you’re putting your money.
Again, nobody said it was clean thinking or appropriate to pre-judge, only that you can easily see how the mistake gets made without ever calling it chauvinism.
[…], only that you can easily see how the mistake gets made without ever calling it chauvinism.
This is the point where I strongly disagree with you, constantly mistaking less than ¼ for being the most likely is not easily made, there’s a good reason for why the expression US Defaultism exists, because a particular mindset is required for such a mistake to be easily made.
~25% is a lot when you’re talking about demographics that large. It’s saying that there’s a 1 in 4 chance of any English speaker you encounter being from the US vs every other country in the world.
If you’re looking at native English speakers, it’s about 63%.
But that’s not the point, the point is that more than 3 out of 4 people able to read this post don’t live in the US.
50 states of gray
For people with a real punishment fetish
Micronesia
Consciousness
It’s clear if you click the link - the article will tell you if your inference skills fail you!
You know, a flight from overseas is expensive to do this, but you got to look at the long term savings…
Until ICE deports the baby right back to you, defeating the whole purpose. What a cruel joke.
Were fire stations included in the places they raid?
Who knows where it would be deported. Would they get to you, in time to make sure its going to the right place? Give clothing branding the wrong country. Hell, ice may deport you before they know.anything about a baby
Lol, they’d just ship it to an El Salvadorian torture prison.
If the kids dropped at the firehouse they would automatically be considered a U.S. citizen unless they had paperwork proving otherwise
Uh, ice doesn’t really care about citizenship.
