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    See this kinda thing is exactly why I’m still here. Some guy tried to use his software’s popularity to manipulate and censor Lemmy, and it had the exact opposite effect in the end. His software got immediately forked, most instances(that I know of) stopped using/supporting it and the whole thing is getting memed to death so now the entire usernase knows about it and can specifically avoid this guy and all the software he maintains.

    When this kind of thing happens on a platform like reddit or some other closed system, we can often suspect and sometimes experimentally prove that some kind of censorship or manipulation is happening, but it is way more difficult to detect and there’s little the users can do about it.

    Not here.

    Here the users have the power, the knowledge, and the motivation to not only find problems like this, but to take collective action against them. You all have just proved it, once again.

    Great meme!

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    As I gain a better understanding of how federated social media works, I just find it even more confusing. This dude appointed himself batman of lemmy, but he’s just a single dev of a single frontend. Don’t most instances have multiple frontends? Even if a secret block list was the key to getting lemmy to finally go mainstream (it’s not), implementing it at a frontend level is simultaneously both way too wide and way too small of a net. If tesseract was the only way anyone could access lemmy, maybe a secret block list could actually change the winds, but it’s such a small slice of the fediverse. It’s like if batman was only beating up jaywalkers and was like “You’re welcome, Gotham. The city is saved.”

    What was the point of any of it? Someone was inevitably going to discover it was happening. There were so many people on the block list. Was he just going to personally defend against the ranks of people he found annoying forever? Keep adding more and more regex as the list grows to multiple thousands of users?They’re still on the platform, dude. It’s just one filter on one frontend. What the hell are you trying to accomplish?

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      This dude appointed himself batman of lemmy, but he’s just a single dev of a single frontend. Don’t most instances have multiple frontends? Even if a secret block list was the key to getting lemmy to finally go mainstream (it’s not), implementing it at a frontend level is simultaneously both way too wide and way too small of a net.

      You nailed it! The impact was minimal. Its so many stupid hoops to get to his frontend. The root issue was keeping it a secret. And that’s why everyone was clowning on him, with many users (myself included) wishing we were on that list.

      Apparently that broke Admiral cucktits because his secret list of gay lefties didn’t make him as cool as Batman. It made him like… Ketchup man or some 4th rate villain with a stupid gimmick, who thinks he’s “protecting” Gotham by rubbing ketchup on all the street corners to stop robbers or some dumb shit.

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    I envy tesseract dev. Really. I have barely any determination and feeling of self worth; he had enough to cosplay head of house unmourned. Sadly for him, Lemmy knew how to kill a “god”.

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      i’ve personally slain bigger than patrick. [like, i’m sure we don’t want to get a thread of “what’s the biggest thing you’ve ever destroyed, please tell the story” because it would be utterly toxic and in the real way, not the patrick way} i’m sure most of us here have. “god”? please, let’s not feed his nor any other dev’s ego.

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        It was reference to game called “Morrowind” where main antagonist utters the phrase “I am a god. How can you kill a god?”. Felt it fit with how self-aggradazing was our dear dev.

        Took a chance with that reference, lemmy being full of nerds and all that xD

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          ah shit. i tried arena and it was not for me, daggerfall was not for me, skipped morrowind, loved oblivion and skyrim, but when i went back for morrowind games had developed too much and i didn’t finish it because of all the jank. loved what little of the story i got though. i got as far as custom spells.

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            Understandable. I am quite tolerant for old game mechanics myself, and actually enjoyed both Arena and Daggerfall. Played Morrowind, and had a disk format just before facing the big bad…

            And forgot to make backup of this one game.

            I could not make myself go through swinging sword at larva with missing_woosh.ogg in the background again to start anew xD

    • It was especially stupid when everyone already was scrutinizing his code. Like users found his secret block list that was better hidden than this, and didn’t think anyone would find the ddos code? What a freakin’ moron.

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          I’m watching two users that have been defending him while skirting around the actual problems. Right now, I’m not fully sure if they are alts of his. They aren’t active at the same time, as in one stopped commenting a few hours ago and then the other started commenting, which I find suspicious.

          They’ve been called out as possible alts in this post and another tesseract post in this community. Neither have responded to the accusations though, which I also find suspicious lol

          And he’s still made recent comments on his Kirk account

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            If this person is using alts and still commenting then they really, really need to touch grass. Thats gona be a fairly unhealthy psychological behaviour.


            Patrick if you read this please actually give yourself 48 hours offline. Disconnect and go have a cuppa with a friend or family member (or both). You don’t need to talk to then about any of this, the rest of the world doesn’t know or care anyway. :)

            Don’t worry about this cesspit, we’ll all be here being our lovely toxic selves when you come back.

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    The bots agree with me so it must be everyone else that is wrong. /s

    I forget where but remember hearing a story once. If I hosted a banger of a party and everyone passes out at my house. I wake up the next morning to see a giant shit log in the kitchen sink and Joe says Jerry did it. I might be willing to hear Jerry out. But if I got 10 people say yeah Jerry is the one who took a shit in your sink. Well I’m going to be making Jerry clean my fucking sink.

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    Oh, egads! My Fediverse is ruined!

    But what if… I were to censor it, and disguise it as a server error?

    Ohoho, delightfully devilish, Patrick

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      No one could possibly figure out what’s really going on, everyone knows error messages are confusing and intimidating and everyone just ignores them!

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      Women do it, so nothing to do with masculinity.

      Its just ego being hurt and both genders feel that.

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        The modern Mega-Toddler. All the behaviors of your average toddler, but in the body of a adult. It used to be an oddity, someone much maligned in the papers and film. Now it’s entire movements and even nations, with the prototype oddity suddenly running things.

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          Yup. The reasons for why can be discussed but I always point the finger at social media…

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            Making engagement the sole metric for success, no room for truth or reason or decency, definitely seems like a top candidate.

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        It’s been a consistent play of Trump since even his campaign in 2015-2016. He says something stupid or does something stupid. His defenders say he didn’t mean it like that and try to offer nuance or context, and then Trump clarifies that no, the plain meaning of what he said was exactly what he intended.

        But yeah, after Hokit disparaged Michelle Obama at White House UFC fight, I had a moment of clarity that the new masculine flex is to discharge your strength to do something awful, something cruel or tasteless or obviously amoral, to demonstrate either that you are beyond the reach of consequences or because you don’t care about the consequences. Another recent example is when Trump interfered with the World Cup and cancelled the red card and one-game penalty of Folarin Balogun.

        I doubt that it’s just manosphere-types emulating Donald Trump, but because this is a thing he specifically does time and again, it’s recognizable when other people do it.

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    I’m so happy I got on the list. If i can piss off one fascist POS a day, I am happy!

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    I’ve got a user @[email protected] doing the same thing in one of the tesseract threads, defending the tesseract dev, trying to say I’m calling for doxxing…by saying we should expose the actions of bigots like the Tesseract dev. Take a look for yourselves, only a conservative could be so low iq and determined, my god.

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      I tried to ask, imo in a pretty friendly engaging tone, what they meant with those accusations, and now apparently im under suspicion as well for asking question and disagreeing

      id rather not jump into any conclusions about them as a person, but its a damn weird aand p cringy energy

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        That’s funny, because when I dared to question your buddy who made something easy to interpret as doxxing incitement against all “friends” of AdmiralPatrick…

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        …he started spreading my name around - including making two posts encouraging his mob to report me, and several comments in random other posts including the one you’re on.

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          bruh that shit is two whole days ago 😅 let it go

          i finished a whole ass book since last we spoke this is so far from my mind

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            If your idea of “letting it go” is you admitting you have blatant double standards, and acknowledge exactly how your “friend”'s behavior appeared as a call for mass targeted harassment, then I accept your willingness to “let it go.”

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                The frog pairs nicely with the use of “low IQ” and “cancer” comments. But at least you’re having fun giving ammunition to anybody who wants to prove Lemmy communities harbor harassers while pretending they don’t see any.

                Edit: you suck at hiding your use of alt accounts.

                https://archive.is/4fTu5

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                  in regards to your edit, i can explain that one as well. i dm’ed the guy because youve clearly got a grudge going. thought it only fair he got a heads up.

                  im assuming he then got curious and looked at my comment history 🤷‍♂️

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                  mmh delicious irony. Whos the one harassing who again? you, that tries to revive a dead disagreement, or me, literally just minding my business the last two days, interacting with you exactly zero times since?

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                  Very curious reply from tutter…

                  in regards to your edit, i can explain that one as well. i dm’ed the guy because youve clearly got a grudge going. thought it only fair he got a heads up.

                  im assuming he then got curious and looked at my comment history 🤷‍♂️

                  … Because that screenshot was of a post two days ago, not today. But he’s completely right about who’s doing the sketchy voting today.

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              Did you know, that if you click on a user link, it takes you to their profile, which on the voyager app shows that users newest comment at the top?

              Well know you do

              the more you know

              you can just block me if you dont want to engage ✌️

              stalking… fucking lmao dude. Looking at ANOTHER users commrnt history is stalking, and merely saying the word ‘expose’ is doxxing

              👶🧠

              edit: oh i see how it is. You can harass users all day long but as soon as someone actually backs you into a corner regarding your antisocial behaviour, oop suddenly the coward disappears and if i press for answers, im stalking and harrassing.

              Log of the internet. Youre obviously not equipped for it. Find a new hobby.

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      Or hear me out. This is a very insane and wild take. You don’t need to interact with any posts that annoy you. Keep moving on buddy.

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      you know, I said the exact same thing after several weeks of beanposting the first time, years ago, now I merely accept them as part of lemmy history; I suspect the same will happen here where “hey remember that guy who tried to play admin on other instances and got laughed out of the cool kids club?” will become some sort of in-joke

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    “I’ll write a whiny multipage diatribe to rage quit and insert a script to DDOS the instance that hurt my feelings. That’s the behaviour of a well adjusted adult that’s doing the right thing.”

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      The disturbing thing is that a LOT of people are like this. The older I get and the more I see of humanity the more it becomes clear most don’t mentally age past early teens and many who have big parts of them that don’t age past toddler behaviour.

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      Definitely the actions of a person who should be unquestioningly trusted to be the sole arbiter of determining what is fine and dandy and what goes too far on Lemmy. Totally not indicative of every legitimate concern that every single person opposing this brought up being accurate, surely not!

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        My favorite reply from him when I called him out in a different thread: “why can’t you just let people use their own computers how they choose”

        I’m guessing he has never heard the wisdom of not throwing stones in a glass house. The cognitive dissonance is hilarious, though.

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          That dude is an unbearable cunt as a mod as well. I am absolutely not surprised for the fact that he is an unbearable cunt as a developer.

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            IIRC he banned people in all communities he moderated if he found someone that you broke a rule in only 1 community, idk what rules though

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              Yes, he does. And he is very flexible in his own interpretation of the rules. He’s the kind of power-tripper I hoped leaving behind on reddit.

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                ugh you’re giving me flashbacks of getting autobanned by a bot on one of the main leftist subreddits because I’d once posted in one of the right-wing subs (calling someone out on nazi bullshit).

                It’s infinitely frustrating to see a community of people who mostly just want a socialized safety net, money out of politics, less inequality and less genocide, get run by exactly the sort of people who seem like they’d be perfectly happy implementing gulags and Stasi on the first day of the revolution.

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                Hopefully he won’t come back, though evidently he’s rage quit before and come back