Damn, wish my Windows 10 got updates.
/sIs there a windows 11 update that doesnt break everything?
My work laptop has windows 11, and for some reason I keep losing my mouse pointer. I’ll boot it up and there will just be no cursor. I can reset my graphics driver (which is what googling suggests), enable and disable my mouse in the hardware manager, tweak all kinds of mouse settings - and nothing. Sometimes opening a pdf in the edge browser brings it back, but it can still disappear afterwords.
Also, pulling up the menu to print something can take several minutes. If I need to change printers on that menu, another several minutes. Sometimes, it’ll just crash the entire program I am trying to print from. It’ll also just ignore some settings occasionally - things like landscape versus portrait.
The search feature in explorer is also absolutely broken. You can type in the exact file name of something and it’ll find everything but that file. Even the “recent files” section is broken.
I don’t understand how anyone at Microsoft thinks Windows 11 is an acceptable product. Do they not use it?
they dont, most of them use macs 😪😪
I dusted off my 14 year old gaming pc, wiped windows 10 off it and installed Linux .int and hadn’t looked back. Glad my PC wasn’t eligible for a windows 11 upgrade…
I have to use cloud streaming for gaming, Shadow specifically (because it’s the only one that can do mods, emulation and (though not specifically allowed but you gotta be a real idiot to get caught) pirating). While you can run it on most things (Linux and Android for me) the cloud computer is only Windows, and while I absolutely do not want to give any props or positive anything to Microsoft, I’ve had none of the issues with Win11 that have been reported throughout the years. This means nothing, obviously, as it’s only a subjective experience and these things wouldn’t be reported if they weren’t real problems. I’ve just been surprised over and over that I’ve had absolutely no sign of anything I’ve seen so much about. No matter my experience though, fuck microslop.
Not really windows related but my work wonders why as an IT guy I think it’s a bad idea to force updates the day they come out.
There’s a reason why there is a Windows NT 4 Service Pack 6a…
The company I work for is currently in the process of switching from our own server and email client to Outlook and OneDrive. It’s gonna be a fucking nightmare when we switch.
Not IT, but my fortune 500 employer has been on MS365 since my day one. Judging by the issues we fight with every day with those products, may God help you.
When my work forced the transition from 10 to 11 is when all of my computer issues began.
Just amazing work coming out of the slopShop recently.
There’s an argument to be made that it’s better than what was previously released, given there are over 200 vulnerabilities to begin with. Though, Microsoft was slop long before AI
200?! Jesus. For what people are paying for it I’d expect 0. Goddamn.
Breaking onedrive? I’m confused. It’s like that thing in Southpark “How do you kill that which has no life?”
Things can always get more broken. That’s where mortals have an advantage; you can’t get any deader.
No, but you can rack up illnesses…to a point.
So, microsoft, how’s that vibe coding coming along?
Why do i ask? Oh, no reason.
Idk how to tell you, but it’s AI that found the vulnerabilities created by humans in the first place… Of course they didn’t have to use AI to fix the discovered vulnerabilities, but it would’ve taken a lot longer and more than like still be riddled with bugs
How is falling to show the name of a file in the recycle bin fixing a vulnerability?
It isn’t. They patched a shit ton of vulnerabilities. In the process, the broke the recycle bin confirmation.
well yeah, humans make mistakes that ai is capable of finding but so does ai which also makes mistakes frequently.
companies that use ai for bug fixing are spending extra on ai only for the ai to create Spaghetti code and require humans to go back and fix it anyway.
Ai is good for quick code generation but when it comes to larger scale projects like creating an operating system its much better used as a tool to support devs rather then the other way round.
I don’t know how to tell you this, or actually I do: They vibecoded the update.
I know. I said as much. But they vibe coded patches to vulnerabilities found by AI. Vulnerabilities created by humans
Linux Users:
Ironically people who “btw I use Arch” have been FREAKING OUT because their precious arch user repository got massively infected with infostealer malware, lol
This was just this week
I use Arch, btw. But no, I wouldn’t blame my incompetence on my distro even if I were infected, which I wasn’t.
Mostly because they were doing the linux equivalent to downloading .exe’s from limewire.
I use Bazzite btw
I agree. It’s the ideal choice for gaming, and until recently, I had never heard of it. I can’t imagine going back to Windows 11 unless I was held at gun point and even then.
What a gamers nexus normie!
Nexus is a good channel, but normies don’t even know what linux is. Steve may be tech Jesus but he’s no linux bro.
Sweet
precious arch user repository
I think you vastly overestimate the importance of AUR. A lot of Arch users had to say something about the incident and many of them didn‘t even use it. It‘s definitely nothing essential.
Also Arch users still don‘t give a fuck about Windows. This whole AUR debacle has little to do with what OP was actually getting at.
Maybe so. I use cachy just for the record, so I’m not piling on with linux hate. I’m just enjoying the madness of it all. :)
Crazy self own my guy
CachyOS not only is Arch, it uses packages from AUR out of the box
FYI, CachyOS is Arch based. It has access to the AUR. If you weren’t effected, that proves the point.
The AUR is a repository of last resort. It’s useful, but you should be careful. That’s true even before this even. It’s a repository made by users, and is not verified.
DAE BOF SIDES
Nobody is freaking out who isn’t a moron.
There are a handful of arch users who eat crayons… if the windows users in 2026 leave any I mean.
Not my linux 😎
I actually do use arch btw, however there really isnt anything to freak out over because I barely even use the aur and am just not updating from the aur for the time being. Its really not a big deal.
For those of us Arch btw users:
https://gist.github.com/Kidev/85756c3dcad3623ca5604a8135bafd14
I don’t use arch btw (I’m a Fedora stan)
samesies! fist bump
Cool
I use arch (kinda), and has zero issues. It was a problem if you used unmaintained packages from arch, as adopting them and contaminating then was the attack vector. Using someone that’s unmaintained is always kinda questionable, so instead I’d just manually install that instead (it shouldn’t change if it isn’t maintained anyway).
This is why I love flatpak and sandboxing in general
Flatpak ruules!
I had a mild panic then realised I’ve never used AUR so I’m fine
lmao, but yea- lesson learned anyway 🥀 never will install random packages without properly checking it, Got too carried away by "yay -Essing everything :sob:
The Windows equivalent of this would basically be the discovery that a bunch of apps on the Microsoft Store were infected with malware.
This really sucks for people that migrated to Linux without becoming Linux experts, and chose a friendly distro based on Arch that came with the AUR, like the often-recommended CachyOS.
The packages on the AUR are all user created. It’s not really comparable to the Microsoft Store.
Is the Microsoft Store not full of apps not created by Microsoft?
It’s apps approved by Microsoft. They only made a small fraction of them.
And the AUR is not currently accepting registrations, so some degree of vetting is clearly happening in both cases. I don’t know how stringent for either.
This wasn’t supposed to be a perfect one to one comparison, just an interesting sidenote lol
I think they’re currently taking extra precautions, because of this event. I don’t think they were vetting users before. Regardless, it’s significantly less controlled than the Microsoft store. The equivalent of that is the official repository, not the user repository.
AUR is not the official repository. Its more like downloading a virus from Mlcrosoft.com.
The AUR is hosted on https://aur.archlinux.org/.
Just like how Microsoft hosts the Microsoft Store.
That’s like saying that github is equivalent to the Microsoft store. Sure, they provide the space for the repository. It’s controlled by users though, as the name implies. It isn’t the official repository, like the Microsoft store is the official “repository” for Windows.
The Windows equivalent of this would basically be the discovery that a bunch of apps on the Microsoft Store were infected with malware.
You mean like this?
https://www.howtogeek.com/788382/beware-of-malware-in-windows-apps-on-the-microsoft-store/
If it was the actual apps and not just look-alikes, yes.
There is a reason why the arch community had such a bad reputation when it came to newcomers, they were gate keeping good technical knowledge of the system. It had the side effect that most people became royal dicks on the forums and stopped being helpful, but it did have what I would consider the intended effect of people being wary of everything they did on their system.
I find the easy arch distros to be fairly interesting since my recommendation has always been that anyone who wants to daily drive an arch distro should install arch through command line at least once and read about the packages they use. I personally run endeavor os, but I started by doing the leg work, which led me to the conclusion that I prefer flatpaks over aur if it is available because they are far more easier to maintain good security practices on.
I think that’s a silly thing to say given that the arch wiki is the most comprehensive source of up to date technical Linux knowledge available to everybody. If you mean support for people on the distro itself, it does explicitly market itself to people who are already knowledgeable and willing to be their own support, so idk what you’d expect
CachyOS is completely 100% unaffected UNLESS people chose to install applications from the AUR.
You could literally say the same thing about Arch though
Which is honestly just as hilarious, because I use Ubuntu just trigger Arch nerds.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
Seems pretty unhealthy to be so weirdly angry at people who simply use a different Linux distro than you.
Doing something to spite strangers is the most pathetic thing you could possibly do.
Hahaha I eat crayons so other people get mad
Neat.
Lol, I’d rather have AUR malware than Snap packages. You do you, friend. All the arch based distros are fine, only the AUR is affected, so unless someone goes out of their way to use the AUR they’re golden.
I partially chose Linux Mint to skip the whole snap nonsense. I seriously don’t get how it’s been so accepted in various distros.
For the casual user, they Just Work™. The famous ones like Stean, at least (I tried it sometime ago, it’s better than the flatpak version nowadays). If you never change your cursor, never check out your partitions, etc. snap’s problems aren’t as visible
Can’t we all just… get along?
At the Red
HatHouse we can!
Kubuntu minimal install doesn’t have snaps.
Until you install Firefox, that is.
You can still override it to install the apt package, same with thunderbird.
oh yeh? anyways, im just doing some backups on my fedora over here. not even a lick of drama.
Yeah. My work machine now regularly black screens for up to 30 seconds then comes back. The Adobe Acrobat reader we are forced to use is now so bloated that it freezes the whole machine for up to a minute. What an OS.
Lately whenever someone complains their C partition is full, it’s always unmistakably Adobe’s fault. Their shitty way of updating piles up crap in the Windows Installer folder. Uninstalling Adobe and cleaning up its garbage, no joke, frees up anywhere from 20 to 40 gigabytes of storage. Insane.
What software are we talking about here? There is no way Acrobat takes up that much space. Photoshop might though.
Whatever the reader is called now. It’s a known “feature”. They use Windows Installer patch system to update the application, but for some reason if it fails to update, it just re-downloads the patch without removing the failed ones. Or at least that’s my understanding. Allegedly (according to Adobe at least) it’s a rare bug, but I’ve had over a dozen machines from end users where this caused C partition to run full and slow down/freeze/crash the system. And I’m being serious when I say some machines regained over 30GB of space after uninstalling the reader.
Whoa.
My work machine now regularly black screens for up to 30 seconds then comes back.
Almost certainly driver, sometimes a failing dock or cable though.
The Adobe Acrobat reader we are forced to use is now so bloated that it freezes the whole machine for up to a minute.
That’s just adobe products. They’re great for subscription revenue for adobe.
I switched to fedora for work myself and onlyoffice is handling my current pdf needs, works great and FOSS. Can save to DOCX and everything… and the same program handles those too.
We have monitors where static shock anywhere on the desk will turn off the monitors for a few seconds and then come back on. It’s very annoying
That’s a grounding issue, not anything to do with Windows
Nice.
My employer just switched away from Adobe, so thankfully, haven’t see those issues.
Mine has been doing shit like that for close to a year, the graphics driver is sooooo unstable
Love that my work laptop had a forced rollout to Win 11. Excuse to have a break when it breaks.
our work desktops have the cringey ass UI, the search bar and the minimize bar in the middle, who thought of that.
You can change taskbar alignment if you right-click on it.
No idea who thought centre alignment was a good idea.
I just assumed they were trying to copy Apple, rather than having an original idea.
center alignment is great on my 49" monitor, but that shit immediately goes to the left on every other device i have
I just don’t want OneDrive. Can it stop refusing to be deleted?
Best we can do is remind you later.
You can delete it from your run registry, and uninstall it by running
%systemroot%\SysWOW64\OneDriveSetup.exe /uninstallUnattendedwinstall from memstechtips. Amazing experience. For further tweaking, cttwinutil.
You can procure windows LTSC.
Behold, massgrave
Dev
Who forgot the dot?
⚫️
I second this, along with removing
kamikazeI mean Copilot.
