

It sounds like you haven’t even read my post. My whole point (as I’ve repeated many times throughout this thread to others acting like you) is that I cannot solve anything about Lemmy by running my own instance because federation is broken.


It sounds like you haven’t even read my post. My whole point (as I’ve repeated many times throughout this thread to others acting like you) is that I cannot solve anything about Lemmy by running my own instance because federation is broken.


Has any specific instance been shut down or pressured by ICANN?
Every instance has been pressured by ICANN. Even if there are instances at onion address, ICANN forcibly preventing them from using more mainstream addresses should clearly count as “pressure.”
I’m not sure if any instance was on a domain name/IP address before being shut down or moving to an onion address or something.
You’re inventing a legal relationship hierarchy and then imposing it on the “leftist sub-owners” (as you call them).
How?
Have you got any evidence of ICANN being compromised by MAGA zealots just waiting to shut down instances?
Is this a strawman or do you have some reason for asking me for evidence of some random thing that incidentally uses some of the same words I used?
And what do you mean by “censorship fetish” exactly?
“Censorship cultism” would be more accurate, but also harsher and less approachable wording.
Notice how many times in this thread I’ve had to copy and paste the “censorship fetish” part because people wasted my time trying to justify censorship, or pretending it isn’t happening, because they enjoy seeing it happen to the people it happens to right now and somehow that makes it not count (italics for the “absolutely batshit insane nonsense they really must be fucking embarrassed they haven’t snapped out of” part)
No instance owner here would be happy with some regulatory body intervening and shutting them down.
Then every instance owner should be using Tor for hosting and federation


According to you, the entire thread is apparently trolling you.
Nope, I don’t have a view on “the entire thread” because I don’t feel like trying to remember all the comments at once. But I can’t remember any replies from people that didn’t end up trolling me. So the statement you attribute to me might be true, even though the attribution isn’t. Either the entire thread is trolling me, or a large enough portion to drown out the others in my short-term memory right now.
So as I said: According to you, the entire thread is apparently trolling you.
Nope, I don’t have a view on “the entire thread” because I don’t feel like trying to remember all the comments at once. But I can’t remember any replies from people that didn’t end up trolling me. So the statement you attribute to me might be true, even though the attribution isn’t. Either the entire thread is trolling me, or a large enough portion to drown out the others in my short-term memory right now.
You said that “I just notice that IP address bans should be for filtering bots, not humans”. This is just an opinion. It doesn’t obliged website owners to operate like this. The principle of free association runs up against you.
Rephrase that, I don’t feel like re-reading it


That’s not me. I have no power to compel any instance to do what they like.
Correct, you don’t individually. You just use the relays you want to use, but if those are ones that censor people, then that’s how authority is generally more collective than authoritarians seem to think.
You give the President and random mods/admins the authority to potentially delete posts or have users banned, but you also collectively give yourselves and each other that authority. You want to pretend Nazis don’t exist, instead of dealing with them, so in your authority as a user, you use instances with admins in line with that.
Can I see an example of when ICANN or the President leaned on or shut down a Lemmy/Piefed instance?
Sure, if you can find a Lemmy instance hosted at an onion address, which honestly I would bet is probably out there.
According to the documentation, any Lemmy instance on an onion address would be sacrificing “federation” to use Tor, so it’s safe to assume the only instances doing that are the ones doing stuff ICANN / the President wouldn’t allow, and that would probably be confirmed by looking at those instances.
On the other hand, there might be none, in which case, no, the instances “shut down” from DNS/IP address access are gone, no onion address, nowhere left for you to see.


So if Lemmy is part of that, someone should fix the issue so that it can do that


I explained my situation. I want to shift towards a cluster of zero-censorship instances, but I found out they apparently can’t exist because Lemmy blocks Tor (?), so I’m better off just spending less time on Lemmy.
I don’t care that much if devs fix it, I’m just explaining the problem. If it gets fixed, good; if not, the devs who would fix it will do some other good thing; if that’s not enough for the planet to survive, it’s that there aren’t enough good devs, not that they aren’t focused enough on Lemmy. I hope there are enough good devs for the planet to survive, and also for Lemmy to get fixed, though.


It is


You’re a “communist” that refuses to help make communism happen because you’re more attached to censorship.
That’s called being right-wing.
Left-wing people are not attached to censorship, so when we say “I’m a communist” we mean “I am actively trying to do communism,” not merely “I would try to do communism if I could find a way that’s more compatible with censorship”


I am always worth replying to, but good-faith replies are the ones that would be worth replying with, not this bullshit.


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Also still wondering why you posted the reply in question


You can call wanting to avoid planetary extinction a “very specific desire” but it’s very weird to pretend it being unmet wouldn’t be a problem for everyone.
Are you one of those science denialists who pretends climate change isn’t manmade, or will be solved by corporations before the 100 more years it would supposedly take to become a problem, or something?


I strongly suspect that’s a ‘them’ problem, not a ‘me’ problem, as it seems everyone else is having an equally hard time understanding what they’re actually trying to say.
No, it’s that you’re in a community full of mostly people like you, including the same issues.
I’m speaking coherently. I even rephrased my original point in my main post to where I thought I was making it too long, for the sake of making sure people could understand. People are basically just too upset about the part where I called out their censorship fetish, and not mentally able to think straight about something upsetting.
If you’re really undecided about whether it’s me or everyone else, keep re-reading or asking more questions until you understand what went wrong in your own first reading. That should really help you understand more of the world in general.


Ah, I see you edited your other comment so it no longer tries to equate banning with violence. Being manipulative in a Lemmy thread must feel badass when you have 62 IQ


I asked if you actually thought I might be subservient to you, or you were willingly making a pointless suggestion to be annoying.
Are you afk, or is that question too hard-hitting and uncomfortable for you to answer?


If you read the full reply instead of the TLDR, and admit you were wrong, I might believe I was wrong and it was an honest mistake, but I’m absolutely sure you’re not going to do that.
If you read the fully reply instead of the TLDR, and reply with a false counter-argument, you can probably find more success in wasting my time, feeling camaraderie with your fellow bullies, and confusing the undecided.
But I’m also pretty sure you’re not going to do that, because it might be difficult to come up with a false counter-argument that doesn’t feel shitty to post at this point. So instead, all you’ve done in the reply I’m replying to is repeat yourself, which is a pretty weak gaslighting attempt.


Strange how there are people calling for me to be banned, but not you, while you’re trolling to waste my time, while I’m trying to organize resistance.


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What do you mean?
I asked why you brought up whether I’d try to convince people to join a hellhole
I asked why you added “that’s not what lemmy is about” to your own topic
Before we proceed, can you confirm you understand that’s according to you, not me? I do not remember if it’s true, it is not “according to me.” You said it twice but still haven’t admitted you’re wrong. If you are too addicted to bad-faith discussion to admit this, I am done reading what you type.