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Spotify and several major record labels, including UMG, Sony, and Warner, secured a $322 million default judgment against the unknown operators of Anna’s Archive. The shadow library failed to appear in court and briefly released millions of tracks that were scraped from Spotify via BitTorrent. In addition to the monetary penalty, a permanent injunction required domain registrars and other parties to suspend the site’s domain names.
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It says the operators are unknown, but also failed to appear in court. If they don’t even know who the operators are, how would they supoena them to come to court in the first place? 🤨
That was quick. This took a few months, while artists have been dealing with AI stealing their work for years now.
Always remember that, in the eyes of the law, the real crime is being poor.
Lawyers be making money filing lawsuits against ghosts. Happy hunting boys.
Is this a reverse play? Does that ruling leave open the door to similar rulings against llms? Why did they offer no contest at all?
Why did they offer no contest at all?
Likely because contesting it would require doxxing themselves. The site’s admins survive on anonymity. And you can’t exactly be anonymous in court filings.
There’s also nothing saying they are even in the US. Or at this point even human
So, this sentence says it’s actually illegal to download copyrighted material through shadow libraries, I get it and now I wonder what could this mean for Meta’s AI case?
They don’t care and will continue to do it.
Same
I hope every music industry executive gets run over by a Mack Truck.
Nah, thats too quick
Going in reverse up a hill with a full load
The US music industry has always been bullshit, going all the way back to record labels. I would feel bad for the artists, but I don’t give two shits about the distributor who acts like they own the music and feels entitled to all monetary rewards for someone else’s work.
I like their attitude.
We sued people. Well, I think. Since the people are unknown. They didn’t show up, so we won. Now unknown people need to pay whatever we say they should pay.
Great job, let’s pat ourselves on the back. We fought the man and won.
We fought the man and won.
I think Anna is a woman’s name. /s
Be quiet about that, if they hear it’ll reduce their list of suspects by half!
huge if true
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Presented without comment.
Misogyny makes you think all your worthy enemies are male
woof.
does this set precedence for online platforms to sue AI platforms for all the data collection? /s
AI still out here taking everything. Only the corporations can steal. Maybe they didn’t like that it was then given to people for free, instead sold again.
To go even further, Anna’s Archive has a section for LLM training that the big ones use. Apparrently it’s okay if they use data that has been ruled to be illegal.
Maybe they didn’t like that it was then given to people for free
Yeah, I mean, it’s mostly that.
In addition to the damages award, Rakoff entered a permanent worldwide injunction covering ten Anna’s Archive domains
Bahaha, Fuck Off. The world doesn’t recognize your authority.
Watch how many will bend the knee
So uhm, what’s the new name? Asking for a friend.
you can check these mirror lists for alternatives when the current domains go down
They used a neat trick and just spelled the first name backwards! annA instead of Anna!
Anna’s Archive: The New One
Just go to the wiki and look up the domains in the right.
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I’m confused by your comment and several people have upvoted it so I guess I need to ask what you’re talking about. I started quoting but it’s just reposting your comment basically. Do you think Anna is the perp they’re suing? Are you saying it’s public because it’s a website and not a torrent or such? (there are like…tons of websites for streaming and downloading pirated stuff…)
How is this a massive problem for all of us? How is this different from any other website posting pirated stuff and getting taken down/legal action against them over the past like… 2 decades? Rereading the article didn’t make anything clearer, I’m genuinely just confused on what you’re saying.
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I have mixed feelings. I do support the Swartz-influenced “information should be free” perspective, and I acknowledge that progressing toward that end requires popularizing a sentiment that influences the democratic process, while it still has some teeth.
But, no doubt popularity casts a spotlight on all data sharing, and link aggregators don’t have as much skin in the game as file hosts. Enabling easy access accelerates the war on information access. Perhaps it’s naive to think piracy and/or information sharing can compete with the deep pockets of capitalist stakeholders. However, I also think this conflict is inevitable as it becomes cheaper and easier to ID all users on a network. I wonder if the time is nigh for the activism that underpins a lot of the information underworld to play out. We are clearly in the acceleration phase of the human arc. Piracy becoming “annoying” is the least of our problems.
I initially downvoted you but then upvoted because I do think your comment relevant and interesting to think about.
They didn’t even respond to the charges, which are unenforceable.
Requiring domain registrars and other parties to suspend the site’s domain names is unenforceable?
Not all domain registers are under their jurisdiction. And domains change constantly.
literally in the article
At the same time, however, it is not guaranteed that the site’s domain names will be suspended.
As reported previously, several domain names, including the Greenland-based .gl version, are linked to registries and registrars outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. court. As such, they previously did not comply to the preliminary injunction, and it is unknown whether the latest order changes that.
“Charges” don’t get “enforced”. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
i’m angry at them for being fucking idiots sure but like genuinely this could be a massive problem for all of us.
