A few days ago I made a post to gauge this community’s opinion on whether it should allow nice comics by bigoted artists. I think we have a consensus.

The majority of comments were very in support of banning comics by artists like Stonetoss and Jago. I heard from queer people who said they’d feel safer if the rules were changed. A lot of people were concerned about this community becoming a “Nazi bar”, the comment expressing that feeling got a LOT of upvotes.

The people against the change had two main arguments: anti-censorship, and personal responsibility. A few people equated active moderation practices with book burning. Nearly all of these “against” comments were downvoted or ratiod, and tended to have a lot of arguments underneath them, while the “pro” comments went uncontested.

On the internet, 10% of people will disagree with just about anything. With that in mind, I think we’ve reached a consensus. The community wants a rule change so that users can’t post inoffensive comics by bigoted artists.

That means no more Jago comics. I see a lot of people in the comments under the Jago posts, getting angry and saying they want this rule change. People aren’t happy with the user who’s posting all the Jago comics.

Mods, this is what we want. Please change the rules and get Jago’s comics outta here.

  • Solumbran@lemmy.world
    66·
    15 hours ago

    So for you, discrimination and fascism should only be fought against when on a gigantic scale? As long as it’s not the president of a country, you don’t care?

    “My neighbour is insulting black people in the street but you know, it’s just a little racial slur a few times per day, it’s not like it’s actual Hitler living next to me, so I don’t care”

    How does that kind of logic even make sense?

    I don’t know why there are so many enlightened centrists on lemmy lately but it’s really gross.

    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
      61·
      14 hours ago

      Can you actually point to the discrimination and fascism being posted here? You keep having to rely on hypotheticals and unrelated situations as your argument and have yet to make a single reference to the actual situation occurring here, all while acting like we’re somehow pro-Nazi or pro-slavery if we don’t automatically conform to your viewpoint.

        • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
          33·
          12 hours ago

          I know that you’re just asking for an example to try to attack it, and there’s not really any point

          Oh, you know that do you? There’s no point in devoting a single word in any of your dozen+ comments here to explain a position that you apparently feel so strongly about, while calling others “Nazis” for not automatically siding with you and your moral righteousness

          if you don’t see the problem from that link, a conversation cannot do enough.

          Apparently you don’t see the problem either since you can’t seem to articulate it even once. You seem entirely reliant on logical fallacies, Nazis, and fascism to manipulate others into falling in line with whatever feeling you happen to be feeling about something. This is the same toxic bullshit that gave us things like the Satanic panic and the drug war and it’s incredibly gross.

          • Solumbran@lemmy.world
            33·
            12 hours ago

            So I have to spell out for you that showing people fighting sexism as people who do not know what they want and just complain about everything, or that showing a woman as a weird primitive monkey as soon as she doesn’t talk nicely and politely, is a problem?

            You’re just proving my point exactly, continue sealioning as much as you want

            • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              10 hours ago

              Oh you’re fighting sexism? So why have all your analogies been about Nazis, racism, bigotry, and fascism up until this point? This is literally the first time you’ve mentioned it after commenting here all day.

              Frankly, it seems like you don’t know what you’re angry about, just that you’re angry and everyone else better fall in line or face your wrath. You saw something you don’t like, overreacted on some moral crusade, and now want to retroactively apply some justification to legitimize it.

              Remember this all began with me saying I didnt really care either way what happens to users like him, and you telling me that I was “supporting bigotry” and implied I’m a nazi supporter? Now that I finally dragged an actual statement out of you, it turns out it’s really just about some horny dude depicting too much of the female body in his drawings. That’s what you’ve been comparing to the genocide of millions of people and hundreds of years of enslavement of another people all day. 🙄

              • Solumbran@lemmy.world
                1·
                9 hours ago

                Okay, I can’t believe I have to even explain that.

                Misogyny is about discriminating against women. Racism is about discriminating based on “race”. Xenophobia is about discriminating based on nationality/origin.

                All of those are forms of discrimination. They’re all bigotry. And they’re all related in modern times to fascism, yes. And if you don’t agree, then you’re obviously bullshitting because there is no way you would have missed how discrimination has evolved over the past decades, with people that would have used the same rhetoric as you back then, now doing nazi salutes, committing genocide and exterminating minorities.

                If you don’t see the link - well, then you do, but you’re full of shit. Once again, sealioning.

        • FelixCress@lemmy.world
          24·
          14 hours ago

          You are seriously unhinged if you think either or these strips is an example of discrimination.