• Newsteinleo@infosec.pub
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    5 days ago

    When you can divide a meter evenly by 2, 3, 4, 6 we will talk. Until then take your crappy base 10 measurements and stefu!

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      3 days ago

      Easy.

      Can you quickly calculate how many gallons of water receptacle with dimensions of 5 inch x 3 feet x 1 yard can hold? Extra points if you can also calculate how many pounds it weight when filled.

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      4 days ago

      It can be done just like for feet and inches, look:

      • a half meter: ½m
      • a third of a meter: ⅓m
      • a fourth of a meter: ¼m
      • a sixth of a meter: ⅙m
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        4 days ago

        Yet I only need an integer when using the imperial system, and I don’t have to repeat 3 into infinity.

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          4 days ago

          But then you’ve got a space that’s 5’ 7 3/8" and you need a clearance of 7/32" on each end, so your piece should be…uh… 5’ 6 15/16" long. So much easier than metric, right?

          In metric it would be 1711mm (or 1.711m) and you’d need to take 5.5mm off each end, so it’s 1700mm. (For the record, I picked random numbers in imperial and only did the metric conversion afterwards, I just lucked into the nice round number here.)

          I dunno. You need how many sig figs you need in whichever system, but switching between a factor of 12 for the feet, base 10 for the inches, and the equivalent of binary decimals for the partial inches sure does take getting used to. I’ve finally gotten used to it enough that I can do it in my head, but I prefer to work on metric for most things.

          I acknowledge that machinists just use thousandths of an inch, which does greatly improve working with that system, but it also introduces a third kind of measurement that can’t easily be interconverted with the other two. I dunno. It just feels like we’re doing way too much work propping up this archaic system when literally everyone else in the world is using something simpler and we could just be on the same system.

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          3 days ago

          If you only need integers, why are the measurements of your home hardware and tech specified in 1/8ths and 1/16ths of an inch? Stick to whole inches or shut up.

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          4 days ago

          ⅓m is 1.093504 feet or 13.12205 inch. I don’t see how it’s more convenient.

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              4 days ago

              The entire planet’s machine shops do fine.

              1x1x1 metre cube holds 1000L of water, and weighs 1000kg.

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                  2 days ago

                  What does it matter? I could say any one of the +190 countries and the answer would be more or less the same.

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                    2 days ago

                    What matters is how many white collar keyboard warriors will sit there and act they know better as if they have a clue about machining or its history lol. I promise you in those 190 countries there are many still using SAE for lots of processes. Guarantee you not a chuck key on the planet isn’t in standard even if the rest of the machine is metric 🤷 do NOT take this as me stating that SAE is somehow better, I’m just stating the fact that machining was born in SAE, and if your lathe is more than 40 years old (the lathe I work with is from the late 1930s) it WILL be in standard. In whatever of the 190 countries you are in what size drive turns your sockets? Oh right, quarter in, 3/8ths, or half in. What unit of measure is the wheel on ur car? Right, inches. Globally some stuff has just stuck with SAE for reasons I cannot explain. You don’t have to like it, it’s simply the facts of the world.