• MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      What does it matter? I could say any one of the +190 countries and the answer would be more or less the same.

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        15 hours ago

        What matters is how many white collar keyboard warriors will sit there and act they know better as if they have a clue about machining or its history lol. I promise you in those 190 countries there are many still using SAE for lots of processes. Guarantee you not a chuck key on the planet isn’t in standard even if the rest of the machine is metric 🤷 do NOT take this as me stating that SAE is somehow better, I’m just stating the fact that machining was born in SAE, and if your lathe is more than 40 years old (the lathe I work with is from the late 1930s) it WILL be in standard. In whatever of the 190 countries you are in what size drive turns your sockets? Oh right, quarter in, 3/8ths, or half in. What unit of measure is the wheel on ur car? Right, inches. Globally some stuff has just stuck with SAE for reasons I cannot explain. You don’t have to like it, it’s simply the facts of the world.

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          14 hours ago

          Born and raised on a farm, fixing farm equipment, did work on a autoshop and later gig work as welder in larger refineries and paper mills. Got my CNC operator licences too.

          Only times i have seen inches in use was when i was moonlighting at the saw mill. We talked about two by fours, but the saw was calibrated with mm (50×100mm/ so it was not even the close to inches). Oh and my friends shitty transam that had the assbackwards lug nuts and was a pain to find right kind of hoops for.

          If you want rest of my life too, i decited at some point i dont want travel for work and went to a culinary school where i meadured everything in grams and dl (also met my wife there.) Decited the pay was not worth of the hours and studied programming, but job market kicked my ass. Went in to sales and later found a company where i was able to use my culinary, programming amd sales history and now i have 8to16 job and my own team.

          Never seen a lathe that has not used mm. Even the old ones lathes and colum drills from the 50’s i have seen use mm. My home town does every august work shows with old machines like steam engines, tractors and locomotives and as far as i can remember even those have both mm and inches in the levers and knobs. I think the closest i have seen with the old machines using imperial are some cars with mph meters. (Favorite being old marshall tractor with shotgun starter, having very optimistic meter going up to 100 mph.)

          So… whats going to happen now?

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            13 hours ago

            Well seeing as you worked in an auto shop you know all about the continuous global use of standard measurements! Your tires are always in inches, even when a metric tire (wheel size to be more specific). Every ratchet made is in inches as well as I previously stated. You cant get away from it. I’m not sure why square drives in ratchets haven’t moved to metric considering not many are made in the states anymore, you will use a Taiwanese ratchet to turn a chinese made metric socket using a SAE sqr drive. Wheels I don’t understand the faith to inches either, not like most cars are made in the states. I’m impressed the equipment from the 50s wherever you are doesn’t have inch measurements, as a every machine ive seen of that vintage or older is exclusively in SAE but I suppose my anecdotal evidence is every bit as valuable as yours.

            Your life sounds as though it has been quite interesting, neat variety of work you have performed. If you are curious about machining history, I recommend looking into Robbins and Lawrence machine shop. I live nearby and they are the first place on earth to achieve interchangable manufacture on a practical scale. This is what led to SAE being so common on legacy machines and manufacturing for 100+ years after! It was the birth place of machining as we think of it today, but before cnc (1845).

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              11 hours ago

              Shit, you are right about the tires. I feel kind of stupid now. I ask you now (because of my utter unitrests to start to google anything right now.) How you guys mark the tire sizes? Like we have something like 175/65/14. 175 mm wide, profile is 65% and 14 inch diameter.

              Ratchets tough, never once given even a tough about the size. It was just what fit in what ever bullshit hole it needs to fit and hopefully gave enough leverage. Sockets are in mm and those were the ones I usually needed to worry about.

              Robbins and Lawrence is familiar name from school, but never really given any tought about them, nor i dont think im going to realistically ever travel to Vermont(?)