As a Brazilian, I can unfortunately relate to the exact same scenario…
Needs the “we care ❤️ 🌈” flag on the right side in the rubble somewhere
That was painted on the side of the missiles sold to the genociders.
Now that can’t be, I received word from a liberal on this very platform that the US didn’t send them $24 billion in weapons, they actually only sent $20 billion therefore the genocide is back on the menu!
Sometimes I wonder if liberals even feel cognitive dissonance at being the same MAGA chuds they claim to hate so much.
Ah wait, if they did, they wouldn’t be liberals!
Liberals delude themselves as being different simply because they “support” liberation politics but they are simply helpless against the system that forces them to support fascist policies
None of you dipshits have any solutions to anything. All you do is make noise. “Don’t vote for the Dems” " Okay , then what?" crickets. Gaza getting fucked no matter what is literally just a reason to ignore the lot of you.
I like how you decided to pretend that Leftists don’t have any solutions, rather than meaningfully engage with the solutions presented by Leftists.
Leftists have no solutions on Gaza. They just make noise. “Don’t vote for anyone who can win and change things” isn’t a solution and anyone who isn’t a child understands that .
Depends on where the Leftists are. If you’re strictly referring to America, then the Leftist stance is that both the DNC and GOP are aligned on their undying loyalty to Israel as a tool of Imperialism, and therefore neither option presents a pro-Gaza path. Instead, building up revolutionary pressure by supporting anti-Imperialist movements worldwide and organizing domestically outside the bounds of bourgeois electoralism builds pressure. This pressure can be levied against the ruling parties.
Your “solution” is to sacrifice Gaza.
There is significant anti-genocide faction within the democratic party that is trying to change things from within. There is nothing like that within the GOP. The only way to stop this (and the broader unconditional support of Israel) is through the democratic party. However small you think the chances of success of that strategy, leftists offer literally zero alternative paths to this outcome that have any chance of success.
There is significant anti-genocide faction within the democratic party that is trying to change things from within. There is nothing like that within the GOP. The only way to stop this (and the broader unconditional support of Israel) is through the democratic party.
This is vibes-based. The DNC will not cease support for Israel because the US State needs it for its Imperialist ambitions.
However small you think the chances of success of that strategy, leftists offer literally zero alternative paths to this outcome that have any chance of success.
Why do you believe organizing and building outside pressure has zero chance of success? Why do you think the DNC will magically work against their material interests?
Feel free to come back and apologize when I end up being correct and the DNC never ceases support for Israel without outside pressure and risk of system destabilization.
Trump will turn Gaza to ruble!
Gaza:
Your choice doesn’t affect Gaza. That power lies with Israel and their next election.
For the rest of the world though, it will.
israhell has been committing this genocide for almost a century unless someone willing to abolish isntreal is on its next vallot i dont see how ir***ls next election could change anything, certainly no previous election put a stop to the genocide.
Why is tankie always fascinated by the idea of annihilation as a solution?
Some people can more easily envision murder then the working class (of every country) taking control of their own lives and living in peace and harmony.
Considering how my country men/women/whatever act, I honestly can’t blame them.
the genocidal state of israel has left no other solution but its own destruction. It is clear that they will accept no peace, and that they will never stop as long as they exists.
Yeah, let’s do what they do and call yourself a good guy.
The fact that u would even compare genocide with dismantlement a warmongering genocidal state tells me everything i need to know about u. Fucking liberal moralizers, doesnt give a single shit about literal genocide but when the people being murdered and raped and slaughtered and robed of everything fucking dare to fight back all of the sudden they start pearl clutching about some dead soldiers and the inevitable destruction of an organization whose only purpose is genocide. And u know what gets me the most about u fucking clowns that when its all done and history and its undeniable who was right u pretend like u were on the side of the oppressed all along u would have defended Rhodesia u would have defended apartheid South Africa, u would have defended the British colonies in Kenya and the french colonies in Algeria just like u defend israel today, and u would have said “well the way black people are treated is bad but violence is always wrong” during the American civil rights movement because u are a piece of shit.
Why are Zionists always incorrectly calling abolishing the genocidal Israeli State “genocide and annihilation?”
This bit is pretty mask off for them, because it’s how og nazis understood volkism.
“Abolish a globally recognized state is not genocide and annihilation” is probably the most genocidal take i’ve ever heard.
But yeah sure maybe you should tell UN that or something.
Are you under the impression that the government of Israel is the same as the people living there? Do you think replacing a fascist apartheid ethno-state with a secular, democratic Palestinian state representing Palestinians and former-Israelis equally with minority protections is genocide?
You’re giving off a large number of Hitler-particles.
Are you under the impression that the government of Israel is the same as the people living there?
Where did you get that lol.
Do you think replacing a fascist apartheid ethno-state with a secular, democratic Palestinian state representing Palestinians and former-Israelis equally with minority protections is genocide?
Do you think the people living under that state, whether they agree or not agree with the action of Netanyahu, will want to disband their own country and live under different name after existing for more than half a centuries? It’s no different than saying replacing Palestine and put them under a democratic Israel state representing Israeli and former-Palestinian equally. I bet they will like to have a two state solution than anything.
You’re giving off a large number of Hitler-particles.
Ohh so forcibly disband a country and put their people under the control of another government isn’t hitler-ish. Very galaxy brain, much wow.
Where did you get that lol.
When you said disbanding a country is genocide.
Ohh so forcibly disband a country and put their people under the control of another government isn’t hitler-ish. Very galaxy brain, much wow.
Nazi Germany was disbanded. Imperial Japan was disbanded. These countries were commiting mass slaughter and genocide of innocents, just like Israel.
Israel cannot continue to exist as a fascist ethno-state and needs to be replaced with a single secular democratic state for Palestinians and former Israelis alike.
Read a book and stop defending genocide .
If you vote for genocide you prove that like Biden you do not have any red lines.
Why do Democrats pretend to criticize Biden for letting Israel invade Rafah? They are voting for it in the end. You care as little about Palestinians as Biden.
You can obsessed with that issue all you want, i’m not even American and have no say on what your choice are, and i can give them all the attention i have it still won’t change shit until Netanyahu step down.
My current biggest concern is climate crisis, which unsurprisingly affect basically everyone, including Palestinians. Guess which party call that a hoax, are actively destroying the planet, and guess which country are in the top 5 greenhouse gas emission.
Also lemme know if there’s any party that share your opinion and concern.
My current biggest concern is climate crisis
You can obsessed with that issue all you want…
I can and i will.
Also lemme know if there’s any party that share your opinion and concern.
PSL shares both yours and their concerns.
Either way, neither the DNC nor the GOP are attempting to meet the important climate targets seriously, they need to be replaced. If they can’t be replaced electorally, then they must be replaced through force.
then they must be replaced through force.
Yeah, like nuclear apocalypse or something 🤷
Tankie are something else it seems.
What on Earth are you talking about?
Unconditional political and material support for the genocide from the US is the only reason Israel is able to continue doing it. Period.
That’s true, but we’re talking about picking party, not USA as a whole.
it is true that both parties are fascists
Your definition of fascist covered a lot of leading country include china and russia it seems.
You say that as if you think that’s not the case.
no it doesn’t
Lmao, classic yogthos.
oh you thought I was actually going to engage with your trolling there 😂
Oh look, someone trying to push Trump on us. Bless your heart, you just think we’re all idiots here.
No, they’re not the same. None of us are buying it.
I love how Americans are unable to comprehend that people outside the US exist and that internal US politics aren’t the top priority for the rest of the world. The burger empire is a plague upon the humanity regardless of which piece of human garbage is at the helm of it.
I love how Americans are unable to comprehend that people outside the US exist and that internal US politics aren’t the top priority for the rest of the world.
Pretty rich given that you do nothing but post about US politics lol.
I really do wish the effects of US politics stayed within the US, unfortunately for the rest of us the actions of US plague the entire planet.
Ah, so this
I love how Americans are unable to comprehend that people outside the US exist and that internal US politics aren’t the top priority for the rest of the world.
Was nonsense. Big of you to admit it.
Do you understand what the word “internal” means? People outside the US don’t really care what you do to yourselves, but what you do that affects other countries politically, economically, and militarily does matter.
Your post literally comments on internal US politics. Can’t you remain consistent for like 2 seconds? Its no wonder you have absolutely no solutions to anything. You just make noise.
US doing a genocide in Gaza is internal US politics, is that what you’re saying?
Oh yeah these people don’t ever ever ever give actual solutions on how to achieve any goals. They just constantly criticize and then act like the victim when you call out how absurdly outside reality they are.
Why is it so common that people assume if you don’t like one candidate that automatically makes you a proponent of the other? Is it not possible for you to conceive that both candidates may be power-hungry human garbage?
They’re centrists, scared centrists, who recognize that political in-fighting can result in a split vote letting the party with less votes take the election. However in addition to being humongous pricks about it (helping the in-fighting), they fail to recognize two very obvious facts:
- Progressives don’t have a candidate. In any party. You can’t split the vote if there’s no other option to split the vote with.
- The popular vote doesn’t matter. Hasn’t mattered since the Republican party stole the election in 2000 (if it ever mattered in the first place). There’s somewhere between 3-6 states where the popular vote, if you trust it to be recorded and reported accurately, can swing the election one way or another. In the other 44 states, the popular vote does. Not. Matter.
