But it does help. I do eat meat occasionally but I am aware that lowering the demand of meat will lower the forced reproduction and torture into murder of cattle. It’s the free market y’all love to preach, voting with your wallet.
I assumed that most meat lovers were American and generalised, sorry.
If 30% of the population stops eating meat, keeping the same production would be unprofitable. You do understand that each vote counts, right? As the eating habits of society shifts, so does the production industry.
I know that my vote individually. Means nothing, but statistically there are several people that think similar to me, and of I decide to reduce consumption they will too, which in turn influences production. It would be more effective to be an activist but I don’t care enough.
One person, not eating one meat meal, doesn’t really shift the needle.
One person, spending entire rest of their life, not eating any of the meat meals they otherwise would have, does in fact add up to several animals worth of meat.
Ten people, spending the entire rest of their lives, not eating any of the meat meals they otherwise would have, is a massive number of meat animals, for which the demand will not exist, and which will not therefore be raised.
There are a lot more than ten vegans.
While I’m not, I respect those that can.
Your bitterness that prevents you from ever having to consider if you have made a moral error is not serving you in your day to day morality, and it will eat into other areas of your personhood. I suggest to you that the emotional hit for acknowledging that yes, choosing not to eat meat is fine actually, and it does do some good, or, in the equally true but differently perspectived stance, you choosing to eat meat is hurting animals. Price the morality into your meat. You’re still paying it if you ignore it, but the cost is in being a tolerable person who people want to be around.
Ten people, spending the entire rest of their lives, not eating any of the meat meals they otherwise would have, is a massive number of meat animals, for which the demand will not exist, and which will not therefore be raised.
so which farms shut down due to the existence of vegans?
Starving animals by eating their food doesn’t really sound moral to me. More merciful to kill them directly instead of a slow painful death by starvation.
Is there a workbook you people all follow with a checklist of wrong information that you spew with no concern about validity? More so, why don’t you just tell the truth? You don’t care about animals period. At least it’s honest.
You cannot even say, “things carnist actually think,” because this is not actually thought. It’s bad faith intended to distract you from thinking, so you will not have to process thoughts and feelings that you are not willing to.
there is nothing wrong with eating meat, and choosing to abstain doesn’t help any animals.
But it does help. I do eat meat occasionally but I am aware that lowering the demand of meat will lower the forced reproduction and torture into murder of cattle. It’s the free market y’all love to preach, voting with your wallet.
when have you ever seen me talk about"free markets"?
tell me, which farm bred fewer animals because of your shopping habits?
I assumed that most meat lovers were American and generalised, sorry.
If 30% of the population stops eating meat, keeping the same production would be unprofitable. You do understand that each vote counts, right? As the eating habits of society shifts, so does the production industry.
I know that my vote individually. Means nothing, but statistically there are several people that think similar to me, and of I decide to reduce consumption they will too, which in turn influences production. It would be more effective to be an activist but I don’t care enough.
do you have a plan to make that happen?
One person, not eating one meat meal, doesn’t really shift the needle.
One person, spending entire rest of their life, not eating any of the meat meals they otherwise would have, does in fact add up to several animals worth of meat.
Ten people, spending the entire rest of their lives, not eating any of the meat meals they otherwise would have, is a massive number of meat animals, for which the demand will not exist, and which will not therefore be raised.
There are a lot more than ten vegans.
While I’m not, I respect those that can.
Your bitterness that prevents you from ever having to consider if you have made a moral error is not serving you in your day to day morality, and it will eat into other areas of your personhood. I suggest to you that the emotional hit for acknowledging that yes, choosing not to eat meat is fine actually, and it does do some good, or, in the equally true but differently perspectived stance, you choosing to eat meat is hurting animals. Price the morality into your meat. You’re still paying it if you ignore it, but the cost is in being a tolerable person who people want to be around.
yes, probably.
I doubt it
no, it’s not.
so which farms shut down due to the existence of vegans?
Morals aren’t really your thing, eh?
I’m kind of an expert, actually
This is one of those situations like where professors of ethics have the poorest ethics of any academic.
talk about bad faith
Clearly not.
saying something doesn’t make it true
Lol
Starving animals by eating their food doesn’t really sound moral to me. More merciful to kill them directly instead of a slow painful death by starvation.
Found a new strangest response to veganism!
I mean if we are going to be acting like cunts in the comments section, we might as well do it right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is there a workbook you people all follow with a checklist of wrong information that you spew with no concern about validity? More so, why don’t you just tell the truth? You don’t care about animals period. At least it’s honest.
I can literally copy and paste this comment directly back at you and it would still be true.
Things carnists brainwash themselves with ^^^
You cannot even say, “things carnist actually think,” because this is not actually thought. It’s bad faith intended to distract you from thinking, so you will not have to process thoughts and feelings that you are not willing to.
I’m a communist, not a carnist
One has nothing to do with the other.
exactly
So there is nothing preventing you from being both. So WTF.
you are making that up. you don’t know anything about me
othering people with neologisms is pretty bad faith.