• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    so… hydroelectric power stations collapsed, thus renewable energies like wind turbines and solar power are bad?

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      11 hours ago

      Wind and solar aren’t bad, they’re approximately the same as nuclear. You’ll find them at the bottom of this table.

      Energy source Deaths/TWh
      Brown coal 32.72
      Coal 24.62
      Oil 18.43
      Biomass 4.63
      Gas 2.82
      Hydropower 1.30
      Wind 0.04
      Nuclear 0.03
      Solar 0.02
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      23 hours ago

      If nuclear is too scary because it killed ~5k why is hydro considered safe when it has a kill count 100X higher?

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              17 hours ago

              Here it is ladies and Gents the magic commenter will now read my mind and tell you what I the OP intended when I the same OP made the post. It definitely wasn’t to point out how uninformed people like [email protected] pretend nuclear will kill them and their families instantly and ruin the planet for all time because they were raised on and force fed anti nuclear propaganda. It definitely was not to point out that humans are terrible at assessing danger and risks on a large scale. I’m sure you are one of the people who thinks its safer to drive coast to coast than fly.

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                16 hours ago

                your op :

                140k deaths related to renewable energy accidents (hydro, wind, geothermal)

                Then :

                The chinese claim only 26k deaths some estimates place it at 260k deaths i’m not being exact its a ballpark. No one source tracks all deaths from renewables or fossil fuels or nuclear. 52 dams collapsed not one.

                ~130k people died directly from this event. The other ~10k is a rough estimate on other deaths from similar incidents

                So now, the claim has gone from all renewable sources causing 140k deaths, to just dams causing 26k or 260k + 130k from a specific event + 10k from "similar incidents.

                Anywhere between 166k to 400k for hydro, which is more than 140. At this rate, wind and geothermal are CAUSING between 26k and 260k births.

                And then you threw up some graph where it shows that hydro makes up about a 1/3rd of power generation from renewables, and claimed non-hydro was responsable for 50% of renewable energy generation, which has no bearing on the number of deaths you’re talking abut.

                And now you’re throwing an attack on me claiming I said things about nuclear, when I have done no such thing.

                Are you all good? Everything fine at home?