Like I genuinely don’t want to give anyone ideas but I will never understand why they went through all that trouble and then didn’t also have it auto-disable for instances that were on the secret blocklist. Like if that had been done, it might have taken YEARS for people to notice. Even if someone had they could have innocently hidden behind “Oh well the dbzer0 people don’t like censorship so I defaulted them to toxic mode so they didn’t have to mess with the settings.”
Like… I would ask why duplicitous people are so dumb in long term thinking but I think that’s just answering my own question.
I’m curious about it’s overall usage statistics, but I guess the best metric - downloads of said banlist - is in their hands. I’ve seen people saying they’ve used it at some point, but I don’t think there were a lot of people. I’d go as far as to suspect that more people saw and reacted to recent news and memes about this frontend than used it at any point in time, total. My perspective as a mostly smartphone user is screwed though.
Mods and admins tended to use it because of the way it it easily presents information and the workflow is much better than the standard web UI. For instance, before lemvotes.org came around, it lets one who isn’t an admin see who voted on what. Sadly, aside from the recently revealed scumminess from the dev, it is a much better UI in about every way than the default web UI for Lemmy.
uh, but then those mods and admins wouldn’t be able to mod all the users on the list, right? Cause they wouldn’t even load the posts?
All the users who are allegedly the worst scum of the fediverse were made unmoddable by the list that’s supposed to protect the normies from seeing those users?
Yeah. It’s good that this was caught relatively early. I’m not familiar with the way it works under the hood, but I suspect you would still see notifications for reports and be able to deal with them even with the blacklist because that’s an entirely different thing from posts and comments.
He obfuscated the blocklist, and had it pull the latest list from his own server at run time (so forks and local configuration would be less likely to work)
He absolutely cared to push his blocklist to everyone
Like I genuinely don’t want to give anyone ideas but I will never understand why they went through all that trouble and then didn’t also have it auto-disable for instances that were on the secret blocklist. Like if that had been done, it might have taken YEARS for people to notice. Even if someone had they could have innocently hidden behind “Oh well the dbzer0 people don’t like censorship so I defaulted them to toxic mode so they didn’t have to mess with the settings.”
Like… I would ask why duplicitous people are so dumb in long term thinking but I think that’s just answering my own question.
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Muahahaha /s
He built it for his own use and didn’t care that his blocklist applied to everyone.
Right but they even admitted that they had HOPED no one would notice.
I’m curious about it’s overall usage statistics, but I guess the best metric - downloads of said banlist - is in their hands. I’ve seen people saying they’ve used it at some point, but I don’t think there were a lot of people. I’d go as far as to suspect that more people saw and reacted to recent news and memes about this frontend than used it at any point in time, total. My perspective as a mostly smartphone user is screwed though.
Mods and admins tended to use it because of the way it it easily presents information and the workflow is much better than the standard web UI. For instance, before lemvotes.org came around, it lets one who isn’t an admin see who voted on what. Sadly, aside from the recently revealed scumminess from the dev, it is a much better UI in about every way than the default web UI for Lemmy.
Edit: autocorrect nonsense.
uh, but then those mods and admins wouldn’t be able to mod all the users on the list, right? Cause they wouldn’t even load the posts?
All the users who are allegedly the worst scum of the fediverse were made unmoddable by the list that’s supposed to protect the normies from seeing those users?
Yeah. It’s good that this was caught relatively early. I’m not familiar with the way it works under the hood, but I suspect you would still see notifications for reports and be able to deal with them even with the blacklist because that’s an entirely different thing from posts and comments.
I like Photon, I hope it doesn’t have a list like this
Photon’s dev reacted somewhere saying it’s not their business.
That’s good to know
He obfuscated the blocklist, and had it pull the latest list from his own server at run time (so forks and local configuration would be less likely to work)
He absolutely cared to push his blocklist to everyone
great. now we have to audit every commit from every so and frontend. I mean we should have been, but now we have another item to look for