Based on recent comments this feels like a discussion we should have. So…topic, basically.

I’m not looking to be chief noisemaker on this, but I stand by what I wrote in !privacy and what’s in my post history.

https://lemmy.ml/post/48724623/26190950

Let’s have at; do we want a [AI] and [NOT AI] tag. Why or why not?

  • replicat@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I looked at your site. Realistically I think we’re talking about two different things here. There are tools which were programmed with the assistance of AI and then there are AI powered tools. Your stuff is clearly the latter.

    I think ai powered tools are a lot harder to sell people on right now. The ai powered area is where I see by far the most shovelware/slop.

    To be blunt, when I see a new ai powered tool I assume several things:

    • This is low effort slop
    • A tech bro vibe coded this 100%
    • No one cares about this
    • It will either make a ton of money or be abandoned next week
    • If it’s popular, anthropic will buy/clone it and everyone will use their version instead

    I know this isn’t true of every ai powered app but it’s true of 99% of them right now. I really have no idea how you could convince people yours isnt slop.

    One idea might be to stop using the term “AI”. It’s a buzzword with strong connotations. Some people hear it and think “gold rush”, some people think “slop” or “data center”.

    Personally I would be a lot more likely to take a project seriously if they used the term “LLM” or “machine learning” to describe what powers the product.

    Also, I don’t see anything that looks like obvious AI art to me but DONT USE AI ART. AI art is already terrible on its own but when I see AI art mixed with AI text telling me about an AI powered app I’m 1000% done giving my attention.

    • pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      19 minutes ago

      For sure on the art. I’m a graphic artist by education and I’m already working with another full-time artist on the application logos. When I make enough I’m planning to hire a proper web developer for the frontend/web design as that’s onc area I do lean pretty heavy on the LLM’s for assistance.

      Funny you should mention the AI vs LLM labeling as I much prefer to call them LLM’s or “models”, but I’m trying to keep it accessible for non-technical people. I think I’ll go back through and rename though.

      Also most of the tools are deterministic, with the LLM’s filling in gaps where there needs to be some amount of probabilistic interaction, like figuring out what you could cook given only the ingredients in your pantry, or rewriting a resume 26 million ways to satisfy the ATS filters.

      If you don’t want to use those features, nothing forcing you. They’re useful for tracking and organizing without the LLM at all.