I would disregard, at least, that line of thinking. I mean, Tor was heavily funded by the CIA… However, it’s secure. Linux kernel is largely funded by the US government. However, it’s secure.

What dessalines is doing is called “poisoning the well”.

However, I’ll find some more, as I recently was looking into this.

Like this?

https://www.opentech.fund/security-safety-audits/briar-security-audit/

Or more a techie in-depth review?

I can attest: Briar requires no PII to create an account, operates over the Tor network (Your device becomes an onion service, basically, for chat). And, it integrates with Ripple, an emergency wipe button app (As does signal).

I like it, because you can keep a blog, create forums, group chats, and a few other really cool features. It sucks down your battery life, though (It’s the notifs, and keeping an always-on server running).

Science.

Science has been able to get inside the heads and determine what animals are thinking? This is a breakthrough! We should now be able to communicate with these animals! Surely we can, right?

My point is how you tried to argue reproduction based on instincts, so I brought another instinct-based trait.

Ok, try not eating. Period. I bet instincts will kick in, and you’ll eat, and not starve.

Urbanization and capitalism aren’t part of Nature.

Nobody besides yourself even implied they are.

I doubt it can be changed, especially due to how things are pivoting to technofascism in the world. I doubt it can be changed, especially due to how we humans are constantly endangering other species for living as “modern humans”.

We’ve changed it myriad times. I provided two such examples.

However, we humans have been long detached from natural means of living so transition wouldn’t be easy, we’re sort of cursed to “modernity”, so it’s complicated.

Ah, so you think all humanity is illustrated only by western living, huh?

They do possess intelligence (especially crows and dolphins, not mentioned), but they don’t end up cursed by knowing the pointlessness of their own existences through a broader, cosmic lens. We do.

Are you sure about this? How can you possibly know? How about Octopi? They are, almost certainly, as intelligent as we are, and have 8 brains interworking with each other. You have zero possibility to even guess how they view the world.

If we were to talk about instincts, murdering to eat (hunting) is also pretty instinctive across species… Humans don’t often “murder to eat” because they often delegate it for others to do it, but with enough desperation (e.g. lack of food) a human can even eat other humans (see Chichijima incident)…

Not sure your point? Tribes have always relied on varied tasks for members. Even higher primates do this.

It’s also instinctive to live among the woods.

No, it’s not. Its instinctive to seek shelter, water, food, and to reproduce. Instinctually, we are also social animals, requiring our tribe to survive.

Maybe because we’re legally forbidden by other humans to move to a forest and live as our ancestors did, so we’re required to live “among society”, which in turn requires us to “pay” to “afford” food and shelter.

So, that’s the root of the problem, and it’s something we can change. See: Seneca Nation, or the people of Chiapas.

Briar is… Signal if you turned security up to 11. It comes with drawbacks, like if you are offline, you miss messages. You can get around it by using their mailbox, but that brings other issues (Securing a server).

Wealth becomes meaningless.

I don’t think this is a negative…

So, I’ve gotta ask: Why don’t you just end the one life you can, since you hate all life? I mean, it sounds rather… illogical for you to type all that out, to tell other life what your thoughts are, since you hate all life anyways?

Why not go be a hermit then? Get away from all other humans, and just exist by yourself?

If you’re talking to people here, it means you enjoy your own life, and want to communicate your thoughts to other lives, so they can understand what you’re feelings are. Which means, at some level, you value life.

Problem is that this argument discards the selfhood from those being born.

So, can they also choose to be born?

Selfhood, if we’re being frank, doesn’t really “form” until at least a year or so into life. Just not enough cognitive ability yet.

Do bears choose to be born? Microbes?

Reproduction is an instinctive behavior, in all species. Humans as well.

Our ecosystem has a tendency to keep over reproduction in check. For all species.

If the load becomes too high, resources become scarce, and reproductive rates fall.

For example, there’s a reason why birthrates are falling right now, for humans. And why deadly diseases are becoming more common.

Andrew Jackson was a literal psychopath, and came up with the ideology of just ignoring court rulings.

There has never been anyone like him before as anyone with his type of childlike behavior would have been dismissed.

I’d like to introduce you to Andrew Jackson…

September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren’t as important as revenge.

Yes, and its pretty great on devices you can install it on.

Problem is? Its not possible to install on most phones.

Oh, it’s not completely useless. If you need something that makes gibberish that sounds real for ad copy, I’m sure its fine for that.

And, while it may save me, a higher level person some time to produce a document… the cost for the production (Due to the electricity required, and other compute resources, which require all their own people to maintain) outstrips the time saved, when I could have handed the job to a level 1 support person, since I still need to review it and correct it for accuracy.

providing me with quick, straightforward recipes based on what I have at hand,

Ah yes, the wonderful recipes AI generates. Like Pizza made with glue!

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-glue-pizza-i-tried-it-2024-5

You know what else generates quick, straightfoward recipes based on what I have on hand?

My brain. I open fridge, and freezer, and then decide what to make. Usually takes less than a minute to figure something out.

Documentation is easier. Tools for PDF, Markdown have increased in efficacy. Coding alone has lowered the barrier to bringing building blocks and some understanding to the masses.

I have seen none of these, in practice.

The documentation generated is no better than what a level 1 support rep creates, and needs to be heavily fixed before being relied on.

Pandoc still produces PDFs, Markdown, etc just as quickly as it always has.

The code produced still has the same issues as documentation: it’s shite, and not easily bug fixed due to a lack of understanding by anyone with what its actually doing. And, if you need someone who understand the code already to bugfix it, guess what? You didn’t save anyone anything.

And, all of this, only using terrawatts more electricity than before, with equivalent or worse outcomes.

As expected. Wait until they have to pay copyright royalties for the content they stole to train.

LLM might be worse than those but Perplexity is certainly a lesser player in the field.

Its a good thing I don’t just block Perplexity, but all of the LLMs.

And I wont comment on the rest of this, but lets consider another form of property: Real estate.

You own a plot of land. Should others be able to use it, however they feel, whenever they feel like? Or should you have a say in how it gets used?

If you feel like you should have exclusive say in how real estate you own is used and when and by whom, why is intellectual property any different? There must be value in using it, so what’s wrong with revenues generated by that use being shared (At least) with the creator?

Last I checked, I’m not seeing rev shares from any of these LLMs that have certainly used my code and other content to train?

Information should not be gated or owned in a way that would make it illegal for anyone to access it under proper conditions.

Then you don’t believe content creators should have any control over their own works?

The “proper conditions” are deemed by the content creator, not the consumers.

Doing a GET request doesn’t do that.

Not at all. It consumes at most, a watt.

What kind of problems that would be?

Increasing my hosting bill, to accommodate the senseless traffic being sent my way?

Outages for my site, making my content unavailable for legitimate users?

You have to agree that at one point “be used by LLM” would not be different from “be used by a user”.

Not at all. LLMs are not users.

It’s self-hosted and free.

If you want, or they charge for the hosted version. If they want to use a paid for version, then they can divert some of that revenue to me, the creator, because without creators, they would have no product.

How does that prohibit usage and processing of your info? That sounds like “I won’t be providing any comments on Lemmy website, if you want my opinion you can mail me at [email protected]”

That’s a apples and oranges comparison, and you know it.

That will never block all of them. Your info will be used without your consent and you will not feel troubled from it. So you might not feel troubled if more things do the same.

Perplexity seems to be troubled by it.

What if I use my local hosted LLM? Anyway, the point is, selling text can’t work well, and you’re going to spend much more resources on collecting and summarizing data about how your text was used and how others benefited from it, in order to get compensation, than it worths.

If selling text can’t work well, then why do LLM products insist on using my text, to sell it?

Also, it might be the case that some information is actually worthless when compared to a service provided by things like LLM, even though they use that worthless information in the process.

LLMs are a net negative, as far as costs go. They consume far more in resources than they provide in benefit. If my information was worthless without an LLM, it’s worthless with an LLM, therefore, LLMs don’t need to access it. Periodt.

The bottom line? Content creators get the first say in how their content is used, and consumed. You are not entitled to their labor, for free, and without condition.

And I’ll downvote ya again, if I could :)

FWIW, I don’t owe you a reply :)