I’m a fucking snob so I spend way too much money on expensive single malts and gyokuro green tea.

Yeah. I have it on CD. They had it on vinyl, too, but I refused to buy the record because it was scratched.

Die ist ein Kinnerhunder und zwei Mackeluber und der bitte schön ist den Wunderhaus sprechensie. “Nein”, sprecht der Herren, “Ist aufern borger mit zveitingen”.

A rule that asks users to post before they leave seems arbitrary, that’s why it’s confusing to me. If people only post because it’s rule, I thought a logical consequence would be tons of posts of low quality.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what does “leave” mean in this context? Before I leave what?

I got banned on Lefty Memes for asking for evidence. :)

I’m here for over a year and I still don’t get much of what’s going on here.

For example, why posts are titled “rule”.

To anyone downvoting me:

You rightly despise the perpetrator and his actions, but if you advocate vigilante justice, you are showing just as little respect for the law and all the rules of human coexistence as he did. You should all be ashamed.

Yes, the bastard who assaulted her child deserved death.

No, you can’t take justice into your own hands, because vigilante justice means the negation of all civilizational achievements and the rule of law.

It’s purely emotional, irrational thinking, solely serves the purpose of giving a weak mind an easy way to feel better about bad things that happen.

My mind doesn’t work that way, I can’t auto suggest myself out of logic - and to me, that kind of thinking is what is fundamentally wrong about this world. It makes people susceptible to all kinds of intellectual dishonesty.

If you can lie yourself into believing obvious bullshit just because it’s comfortable, you will also be easily influenced by liars, charlatans and demagogues.

I highly doubt that people like Trump would be possible In a predominantly atheist society with people who are used to scientific scepticism.

There’s a complete absence of evidence for everything you can just make up.

I claim that the universe was created by Ralph the Wonderllama who lives on Proxima Centauri B and who owns all albums by Simply Red.

But hey, no evidence of absence, right? So my claim is valid, right? And you suddenly don’t care how unlikely it is, right?

Yeah. “This violent tornado missed my home so close! Oh thank you, god!”

Noone ever asks why their god created the tornado in the first place. Not even the neighbor whose house has been obliterated. He’s probably thanking god for being alive. It’s bizarre.

Romantasy, these days…

Sarcastic Fringehead and Pacific Spiny Lumpsucker, go clean your rooms! And stop teasing your little sister Common Cockchafer.

I always suspected Christians were secretly into homosexuality.

After all, they’re the ones down on their knees hoping for a man to come for the second time.

But only bad music.

Yeah, that’s the kind of toxic family that one should cut off as soon as possible.

You’re getting really hung up on this idea of “god” when that’s not what I’m really talking about lol

This whole thread was about the likelihood of God’s existence…

Maybe some people find the big bang theory far-fetched

Perhaps, but contrary to the god hypothesis there is a lot of science that makes the big bang theory very plausible.

just trying to keep your mind open

Forgive me, but I’m a person who follows science and the scientific method, so it seems ironic that YOU are trying to keep MY mind open. I will always change my mind according to new evidence, just as science does, being a self-correcting system.

There’s a HUGE difference between saying “this is real because we can’t prove it isn’t,” and “there’s a small possibility this is real, but we can’t prove it.”

True, but some things have an infinitesimal likelihood. And to me, the likelihood of God’s existence is, while not equal to zero, so extremely close to zero that it makes no practical difference.

Like, saying something DOESN’T exist simply because you HAVEN’T seen proof of it

I never said god doesn’t exist. I actually stated several times now that you cannot disprove the existence of anything.

you don’t believe in a god because you haven’t seen evidence of it. I’m just trying to point out the argumentum ad ignorantiam in that.

That’s not an argumentum ad ignorantiam. Wikipedia:

“The fallacy is committed when one asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true.”

I never asserted that the proposition of god is false (as mentioned several times above). I refuse to make any definitive assertions concerning the existence of god (neither true nor false).

I only asserted that the probability of god’s existence is infinitesimally small.

It’s fun to think about a lot of things for sure. But everything you just said is well summed up in your sentence “I just think there’s SO much we haven’t seen and so much we don’t know”.

See, just because we don’t know everything, saying that god probably hides somewhere in what we don’t know yet, that’s called “The God of the gaps”. It’s what Christians have done over the centuries.

They claimed that God created the sun and earth and the solar system, and that earth is the center of it all. Then Kopernikus came along. They claimed that god created the animal kingdom and that all species are unchanged since creation. Then Darwin came along. Etcetera, etcetera. Science has kept disproving religious claims, and it still continues to do so. The gap is becoming smaller and smaller for God to hide in. Christians always point to what science doesn’t know yet (and it happily admits it doesn’t know) and say, see, that’s why God is still possible. It’s why I used the word “desperate” earlier in our debate.

In general, believing in something because one doesn’t know better is called an argumentum ad ignorantiam - and that’s a logical fallacy. There is no good reason to come up with a far fetched claim, just because you don’t have evidence to the contrary.

Have you ever heard of Russell’s Teapot? It’s a thought experiment that claims that there’s a teapot orbiting the sun somewhere in between Jupiter and Mars. Just because it cannot be discounted, does that make it likely to exist? Is it sensible to assume it does exist? No.

I think about God the same way. Everything indicates that mankind invented God. After all, we know over 3000 different deities. It just doesn’t make any sense to assume he’s real.