Fair point. I just wasn’t sure that our renewable energy infrastructure was scaling that high

What about the rebound effect? Do you have the stats to back up that claim?

Even with the rebound effect?

I guess so. Sort of. I’m not against boycotting, if that’s what you’re asking. Then again, whether I am or I’m not is irrelevant to the debate at large, as a whole.

Fair enough. Basically what I’m saying is, you’re right, it’s because people distort the meaning of something innocuous (I.e. a boycott) into something unpleasant sounding (e.g. cancel culture) for whatever purpose they have.

I think I like your explanation better than any others I’ve read so far

That’s not the point I was making. I’m all for boycotting (I think the Montgomery bus boycott was one of the most amazing events in history). The point I was making was people weaponise names to turn people against something: you call something a shit, and everyone becomes convinced they can smell it without thinking

Fair enough. Quirk of being British ig

Thanks for the straightforward answer

Well, you know what Shakespeare (should’ve) said: a shit by any other name would stink as fucked up

This is the definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cancel-culture

I’m not trying to, I’m just curious what people’s opinions on the concept of cancelling cancel culture is.

Ok. Where did you learn to spell cancelling?

Well that’s kind of the point I was trying to make: if it’s not working as it should or as well as it ought to, shouldn’t we look to alternative consequences? (And I don’t necessarily mean to completely replace the concept, but maybe to complement it or work alongside it to further punish dickheads)?

That’s what I thought: people subject to it are evolving their methods against it, so is it really still that effective (then again, we still know of the name Herostratus, so was it ever that effective?)

Funny how conservatives are always griping that their voices are being stifled when their history is deeply rooted entwined with slavery, oppression, racism… have I missed anything?

I completely agree that saying those things isn’t effective, but does ignoring them really have a significantly higher effect? I guess what I’m asking is, are there no alternatives we could try that might be more effective?

We shouldn’t, I agree we should call them out. But does cancel culture really achieve that, or does it just sort of ‘plaster’ over the issue by ignoring it, rather than addressing/fixing it (presuming it can be fixed)? And why not just call it out? Why do we have to turn our backs on them/their output and ignore, why does that become the consequence en masse? Are there no stronger consequences?

lol I’m not going to watch it

Thanks, that’s a good way of looking at it