Hmm. I think there are some things where they are necessary for biological reasons. Like males having increased upper body strength, or females dealing with birth, period pains, etc where some things can only be done by one physical sex or one needs more understanding of certain things. Other than that though your pretty much spot on. Plus sex and gender aren’t exactly the same thing anyway as I am sure someone will point out.
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Sure there are many other societies where gender is also thoroughly and completely cooked to higher levels than it is in say UK, USA, or so on such as Saudi Arabia but it’s a very broad generalisation to say it’s cooked everywhere. There have been and are matriarchal societies even that have very different norms than we do. Not all societies are heteronormative either. I don’t know all the societies in the world. I am pushing it to even say all western societies are cooked.
That wasn’t my point at all. A lot you are good at jumping to conclusions based on not a lot of information instead of asking clarifying questions.
I am saying gender roles are cooked for both men and women because they say a lot of shit that doesn’t make sense. Like the idea that men are always more logical and women are always better parents. Even the thing about colours and skirts don’t make sense. If anything skirts are better for male anatomy than trousers are. Gender norms and heteronormativity make no sense. They as concepts are cooked. It’s lead to lots of dumb laws and injustice on all sides.
That’s not what I am saying. Gender roles in general are cooked and it hurts both sides. I never said this is the fault of women. It’s not on them that they couldn’t open a bank account for decades for example, or all the sexist things men have done over the centuries. You’ve taken one thing I said and twisted it to a completely different conclusion.
It’s things like men like blue and women like pink, or women wearing skirts but not men. None of these things are actually biological, just like the idea men and women do different jobs. We are cooked because we have invented daft roles for genders in the first place. Don’t get me started on things like the idea women are better parents or that men are inherently violent. The idea that men are inherently better at certain jobs and tasks as well, especially ones that have nothing to do with physical strength.
Agreed. Gender in many societies has gotten too cooked at this point. IDK how this gender war shenanigans is ever going to end.
This isn’t a you problem. You haven’t been mansplaining. This is gender war shenanigans and people being sexist towards men in the name of feminism. Gender in western society is honestly cooked at this point.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems2·23 days agoI was being sarcastic.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems1·23 days agoI hadn’t considered that. I can’t say I know much of the struggles of lesbians.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems31·23 days agoIf the mother is so bad and abusive then why is your wife helping her? I think the sister did the right thing here. The state has mechanisms to take care of the elderly for good reasons.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems4·23 days agoNo one is saying women don’t have it rough. The difference is one gender is being pushed out of society, the other is being pushed under it. Men are basically encouraged to give up and go away, maybe commit suicide or go fight in a war. Women are encouraged to find a “man” and become some tradwife who has no agency. Neither is a good thing, but don’t pretend they aren’t different.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems52·23 days agoThis is a rather bizarre response to come up with. First I am not an incel, that’s a right wing ideology I don’t subscribe to. I mean some of the concepts they use don’t even make sense statistically - like they are logically impossible. I digress.
Women make up more than half the population. Sexism wouldn’t have been as big of a problem and still wouldn’t be as big of a problem if women didn’t perpetuate it too. Just look at the trad wife movement or modern women who despise feminism, or like any women’s beauty standards, or the whole thing about matching outfits, etc. All of these are forms of sexism that men just don’t engage in to nearly the extent women do. Purity tests for butch lesbians and trans girls is another one. At least you can argue that men also do that, but they aren’t the ones kicking women out of bathrooms.
Absolutely toxic masculinity is a problem largeley caused by men, but that’s not the fault of the individual. Like I didn’t decide that boys don’t cry. Plenty of women too help perpetuate and reinforce these ideas by doing things like breaking up with men who show any vulnerability. There is a reason why gay men are better at this.
As for the whole thing of slipping further away from feminine qualities - you do know not all past societies were more feminine, right? Have you heard of ancient Greece? You do realize feminism has made large strides at addressing much of these issues? Like this all used to be much worse, things have been progressively changing for the better and still are in most places. It’s only the USA that seems to have taken a nosedive recently. Even that is a push back against broader change.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems4·23 days agoNo? It’s the fault of all genders. Men perpetuate ideas that hurt other men, and women perpetuate ideas that hurt other women. Vice versa is equally true.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems3·23 days agoYes this is very true. I think if anything they go hand in hand, if society is hostile towards you, you are equally more likely to turn your back on it. If you start turning away from society, people are more hostile, so it reinforces that decision. It’s still a systematic failing though. Society should be pulling people back from the brink, not pushing them further.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•We really don't want to talk about our problems133·23 days agoYou say men are turning their backs on society. I would argue it’s the other way round. Modern society has lots of problems unfortunately, and can be quite hostile especially to men.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Technology@lemmy.world•Windows seemingly lost 400 million users in the past three years — official Microsoft statements show hints of a shrinking user baseEnglish5·25 days agoYes. Though it depends on what you want. If you are willing to learn some stuff, and don’t mind doing some maintenance, then CachyOS is hard to beat. It’s fast, up to date, has packages for basically everything, and the documentation from both them and from arch linux the parent distribution is great. Otherwise Linux Mint, PopOS, Aurora, and OpenSUSE are all good options. I wouldn’t recommend using Ubuntu directly anymore because of the enshitification canonical have engaged in. Debian is always good, but might not be what you are looking for in terms of ease of use or being up to date.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Technology@lemmy.world•Windows seemingly lost 400 million users in the past three years — official Microsoft statements show hints of a shrinking user baseEnglish16·25 days agoThey also had pretty strict CPU requirements. Mostly only 8th gen and newer, or a ryzen, would be required.
No biological male can have periods or bear children. I think that’s fairly straight forward. Strength is a spectrum though I agree.