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  • I’m very pro ai but this is a terrible idea.

    Ignoring the fact that the tech is simply not there yet for this, how would an AI control the class? They will need a glorified baby sitter there at all times that could be simply teaching.

    But I think the worst part of this is that certain kids still need individual attention even if they aren’t special needs and there is no way the AI will be able to pick up on that or act on it.

    Recipe for disaster. The part about vr headsets is just icing on the cake.



  • I mostly agree with what you are saying but I do think sourcing it ethically is a pipe dream.

    It’s impossible to get all that data from individuals, it’s way too complicated. What’s already happening is the websites are selling the data and they all have it in their terms of service that they can, even Cara the supposedly pro artist website.

    The individuals are not getting compensated and all regulations proposed are aimed at making this the only option. If companies have to pay for all that data while Google and Microsoft are paying premiums to have exclusive access, the open source scene dies overnight.

    It really seems to me like there’s a media campaign being run to poison the general populations sentiment so AI companies can turn to the government and say “see, we want regulations, the public wants regulations, it’s a win win”. It’s regulatory capture.

    I’m also pro piracy and use it myself for all my media. I still consider it theft even if moral but I understand your point about it stealing from artist. I just don’t think any current regulation will help artists. Personally, I advocate for copy left licenses for anything that uses public data but I sadly have never seen any proposed law or government document mention it.


  • I know how AI works. I was using collage to show that it’s much less transformative than AI while still being accepted.

    It also doesn’t copy bits. It has an internal network of bits and it shifts their weight with each images. It’s learning from the images akin to how a human would, not copying. This is far from a perfect analogy, there’s a mountain that separates a human brain from a neural network, it’s just that both processes would be copying under your definition.

    If I write a reference book, I need to reference my source if I’m quoting things. Even if I saw it in 2 different books .

    This is a tool to help and guide. In terms of LLMs, trying to get references out of it is just a terrible use case. It’s suppose to be verified at all times and clearly should never be itself quoted.

    For images, this is like expecting each artists to reference what influenced them. Having unrealistic thoroughly invented expectations doesn’t mean the tech is failing or bad.

    This kind of attitude has some weird “everything has to be true on the internet” vibe. I wouldn’t expect actual truth and references from reddit posts, I don’t understand why people expect it from a guided rng machine.

    If I read a book into a podcast and change a few words, take credit and don’t give any to the original author is that ok?

    If you read a hundred books and then built a podcast episode on what you learned from all those book, that would be okay and is a lot closer to what llms are doing.

    Its just a combined data scraper with some random data.

    That’s what AI is. 98% of machine learning is scrapping data and training models on it.


  • It’s asinine to compare AI with block chain. Block chain uses are very limited while my own 60 year old mother uses AI in her work. It depends on your work but there’s immense use cases for AIs, and most people that use it regularly can attest it’s a huge productivity boost even if it isn’t perfect and it has to be verified.

    I also suggest you look up copyright laws. It’s clearly transformative. If collage is legal, how can AI not be?

    Not to mention that we use AI already everyday. Any app that identifies songs, plants or insects uses AI. So does Google translate or your autocorrect on your phone (I’m not entirely certain about the second one).

    If our government won’t force these companies to copyleft the models, the least they could do is not create a walled garden where only Microsoft and Google can afford to train models, something you are advocating without realizing. You are essentially being a mouthpiece for big AI companies and big data companies who are trying to shoot open source in the foot.

    Individuals aren’t getting a dime, this is about if we can run these models on our PC or only through their subscription service.


  • Have you ever used Google translate or apps that identify bugs/plants/songs? AI is used in products you most likely use every week.

    You are also arguing for a closed garden system where companies like reddit and Getty get to dictate who can make models and at what price.

    Individual are never getting a dime out of this. In a perfect world, governments would be fighting for copyleft licenses for anything using big data but every law being proposed is meant to create a soft monopoly owned by Microsoft and Google and kill open-source.


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    Lemme is very pro-piracy so that’s kind of a silly statement. It’s also worth noting that AI is clearly transformative. Collage is literally legal, how could AI be stealing?

    The problem is that it’s making the field hyper competitive by “stealing” jobs, but photoshop and photography did this as well in their time.

    No one cried about translators losing their niche because of Google since just like generative AI, it benefits society as a whole in the end.





  • So for those that didn’t read the article, it basically explains how LLMs have a negative connotation about AAE. When asked to associate words with AAE written phrases, it used words like “aggressive”. When given a normal English phrase and the same phrase but in AAE and then asked what jobs would suit this person, the LLM gave low income jobs for the AAE statement with broader options for the normal English one.

    It’s a serious problem because people that naturally write in AAE are most likely getting worse results. It stems mostly from old rascist newspaper articles and similar things.


  • For those that cannot access it:

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    New York (CNN) — Yelp filed an antitrust lawsuit against Google on Wednesday, alleging Google used its monopoly to dominate local search and advertising markets.

    A federal judge’s ruling that Google violated US antitrust law with its search business earlier in August paved the way for the lawsuit by Yelp, another major tech company that allows users to write reviews of local businesses. Yelp has long raised grievances with Google’s search dominance, saying in the complaint Google had stymied Yelp’s reach since rejecting the tech giant’s offer to buy the platform.

    “Our case is about Google, the largest information gatekeeper in existence, putting its heavy thumb on the scale to stifle competition and keep consumers within its own walled garden,” Yelp said in an online blog post on Wednesday.

    The staggering defeat for Google in the US District Court of the District of Columbia had the potential to reshape how millions of Americans get their information online. Wednesday’s Yelp lawsuit was one of the first steps taken since US District Judge Amit Mehta called Google a “monopolist” in the opinion.

    “Yelp’s claims are not new. Similar claims were thrown out years ago by the FTC (Federal Trade Commission), and recently by the judge in the DOJ’s (Department of Justice’s) case. On the other aspects of the decision to which Yelp refers, we are appealing. Google will vigorously defend against Yelp’s meritless claims,” a Google spokesperson said in a statement Wednesday.

    CNN has reached out to Google for comment.

    The Wednesday lawsuit, filed in federal court in San Francisco, alleges that Google manipulates results to promote its own local search offerings when a customer searches for such results on Google. That allows Google to unfairly outperform its rivals, Yelp said.

    That means when a user searches up a local restaurant, Google allegedly uses its monopoly power to serve them any and all information – from directions to hours to reviews – meaning people don’t have to click on a single outside source such as Yelp.

    Yelp isn’t the only specialized search provider. Sites like travel provider Expedia, job and employer reviewer Glassdoor and real estate site Zillow were described in the complaint as threats to Google “on a level playing field.”

    “In other words, Google abuses its monopoly power in general search to keep users within Google’s owned ecosystem and prevents them from going to rival sites,” the statement said.

    Yelp claims Google does this because the quality of reviews on Yelp and other services is better. Yelp cited an FTC report that said 32% of reviews on Google have no text, while review text is always required on its own platform.

    “Google, which was late to market in this respect, has never been able to develop a high-quality local search service to rival that of Yelp and other local search platforms,” the 66-page complaint said.

    Google has historically spent billions on exclusive contracts to become the world’s default search engine – allowing it to stomp on any sort of rival from Bing, DuckDuckGo, to even more specialized platforms like Yelp.

    Specifically, Google’s exclusive deals with Apple and other key players in the mobile ecosystem were anticompetitive, Mehta wrote in the opinion from earlier this month. Mehta wrote that Google has also charged high prices in search advertising that reflect its monopoly power in search.

    The court earlier in August did not find that Google has a monopoly in search ads. But Yelp, which also sells local search advertising, is arguing that Google’s monopoly entices local advertising to depend on Google. This allows Google to charge these businesses higher fees.

    Google said in a statement then that it plans to appeal the decision, and that Mehta’s opinion recognized Google as the internet’s best search engine — an argument the company had made in court as the reason consumers preferred Google over the competition.

    In the lawsuit, Yelp said Google’s actions hurt its business by lowering its traffic, reducing advertising revenues and raising Yelp’s own costs.

    Yelp is seeking monetary damages and an “injunction prohibiting Google from continuing to engage in the anticompetitive practices.”

    CNN’s Clare Duffy and Brian Fung contributed to this report.

    This story has been updated with additional context and developments.

    The-CNN-Wire

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  • Avoid anything that comes in plastic packaging and distill your own water. You will still need to drink normal water but I can’t imagine any municipality is currently equipped to deal with microplastic so reducing your intake is probably a good idea.

    Short of moving somewhere very rural and growing all your own food, it is close to impossible.