When will they ever learn?

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      I have many linux distros running in the house for servers and self hosted software but the one box i havent swapped yet is my daily driver system. Microsoft is pushing me ever closer but with some titles still not supporting linux and getting to the end of a day i just want to game not debug something.

      Its getting close though. Fuck this timeline. I looked at Pop OS and bazzite as out of the box gaming distros but am open to anything.

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        It’s worth the switch. Bazzite Is a solid choice. I would stay away from PopOS for now. CachyOS is a great high performance choice, especially if you have Linux experience.

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    Could someone PLEASE build an idiot proof way to permanently remove Edge from your system!?

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    If they were actively trying to push people towards Linux, would their choices look any different? Perplexing.

    IMO they’d be wise to take every step they can to make the OS feel like it belongs to the user, but more and more the attitude seems to be “it’s our OS, so we do what we want” which is their right, but it’s shit marketting that makes them feel more like Apple every day.

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    Glad that they specified WindyPlop11. Linux wins in every branch of every one its splendid variations

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      I do have a few other pet peewees too for Linux, despite having that on my ThinkPad.

      • GDB is pretty uncomfortable to use.
      • The only usable GDB GUI is a glorified webpage by none other, than Micro$lop.
      • Some low-level API (sound, input, etc.) are absolutely dogshit compared to their Windows counterparts (still haven’t found anything on how to specify to ALSA if I want to open a device other that default, and how exactly, just found a massive issue with Evdev, etc.).
      • Want something better than those? jUsT USe sDl, except SDL is kind of dogshit under Windows (DirectInput/XInput + DirectAudio instead of newer APIs), could not get its audio system working at all as people were instead suggesting me to use MP3 player DLLs instead of writing my own audio solutions, etc.
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        Bit specific, but for opening an audio device other than default, you should use the API of a sound server. Pulseaudio’s for instance. The new hotness is Pipewire, and it has its own API, but it also supports the Pulseaudio API and AFAWK most clients (apps and things) are still using that.

        The sound server sits on top of ALSA and handles all the routing and mixing and shit. ALSA is lower level than what you need as an app/user program dev.

        (Pipewire also supports the JACK API. Music apps and such used to use JACK because it was lower latency than Pulseaudio. Which meant you had to stop Pulse and start JACK and lose all sound from your other apps and it was a right pain. Pipewire just does both.)

        – Frost

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        VS Code is far from the best GDB GUI; in fact I would confidently say that everything about running and debugging in VS Code has been the biggest pain I have ever experienced. even with its recent decade of inattention from the community, Eclipse CDT is miles better than this thing. i’d wager that even Qt Creator is better than it

        Anyways, JetBrains recently made CLion free for non-commercial, so that’s what you should use. it is obviously better than VS Code

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      Honestly (and probably naïvely), what exactly is it that Windows can do that you couldn’t do on another OS? Why would a school need to force such a retarded requirement?

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        This is a fairly naive take. It’s this way because the infrastructure is built this way. If it was easy for an org to entirely switch to Linux, they would.

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        As someone who has been dealing with exactly this issue with my new employer’s enterprise ICT department, I have some insight to share.

        When you have thousands and thousands of laptops that you need to manage, it becomes a burden for the in-house IT department, so they often farm it out to a Managed Service Provider (MSP). This is particularly common for organisations like schools and hospitals that often don’t even have an in-house IT department. The MSP will install policies and management software on the laptops to ensure the OS is up to date, the antivirus is not disabled, the VPN is configured correctly, passwords are changed regularly, etc.

        Yes of course there are linux-native solutions for each of these things, but the MSP doesn’t support it, doesn’t offer that service. To keep their service prices affordable for enterprise organisations, MSPs usually hire the lowest cost technicians and support staff. These poor underpaid staff probably have never even heard of Linux. The MSP can increase their marketable value by advertising the certifications they’ve attained. The certifications are provided by Microsoft and are related to Microsoft software and systems.

        If you have a small fleet of devices and an in-house IT team that has a bunch of Linux enthusiasts, and a user base who drives demand, then it is possible to support Linux. But it requires a lot of effort and dedication. My old employer did that. They had a fleet of around 5,500 devices (a mix of desktops and laptops), mostly Windows, approx 500 of them were macbooks, and about 50 were Linux. Some of these were users who needed to use software that is available only on Linux, some were like me who are simply more productive and efficient using a linux-based OS. But maintaining, administering and supporting those 50 Linux devices took around 20% of the time of the IT department. That’s massively disproportionate to the number of Linux users.

        Not long after I left there, the new CTO put an end to that, they saw and easy cost saving by simply refusing to allow users to have any OS other than Windows.

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          I have colleagues at MSPs who have never used linux in their lifetime. The linux foundation offers certificates and the LPI linux certificates are another option. Even in enterprise IT, linux is seen as a mythical animal that is unheard of and can only be managed through the terminal. active directory has a gui. yes it causes friction and fear because it’s not reassuring like a gui is.

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            Yeah true, I’ve got to regularly remind myself that for most professionals working in IT, the only thing they know about Linux is it’s that esoteric free OS that you get preinstalled on a cheap VPS, used for hosting WordPress sites by people who are too cheap to pay for a windows licence. At least, that’s the view that my colleagues at the last two places In worked at had.

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        Ease of management and surveillance (most such tools marketed at schools are Windows only), first class integration into active directory for user and computer account management, hardware agnostic (rules out macos), and it’s already integrated into the IT team’s systems and processes so switching would be a major effort.

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    Its sometimes fun to watch this drama from the otherside. Windows is ‘that other OS’ for me now. I was switching between Linux and Windows a while ago, and made a permanant switch around 2021-ish (I think). I only use Windows at work as I don’t have a choice, and in certain instances where I’m forced to use a Windows device e.g. for online exams, etc…

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      That’s me too. Every time someone tells me that windows pulled off another shit move, all I can do is laugh at how they choose to deal with that and keep getting fucked.

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    Good for them. Chrome needs a corporate competitor, and the recent lawsuits that (I think) prevent Google from giving FireFox hundred million dollar bribes might lead to a diminished product.

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      Since edge is also based on chromium, I’m not sure how meaningful it would be to me. We need more engines so we do not end up with one engine dictating how things work in the internet.

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    Funnily enough I actually have Firefox open by default whenever I boot up my PC.

    I have no taskbar or desktop items. I always default to a specific workflow of pressing the windows key (or whatever we call it for Linux), and searching for everything. I have since early windows 10.

    I realised that 90% of the time, I was opening Firefox, so now it just opens. I have a pretty minimal toolbar setup for it, so it’s basically just an address bar that automatically focuses when I start typing.

    One day I’ll set up something where I have multiple search hotkeys for web search, file search, application search, music etc, that will sort of replace this.

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      Sounds like you’d like a power launcher style workflow like KRunner or Rofi. Instead of hitting the meta key to bring up the start menu and search for the app you need, bind a key to KRunner or Rofi and invoke the app you want directly. These solutions also natively integrate file search, web search, quickly toggling settings, do in-place calculations etc.

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      We call it the “meta” key. And no, not related to the company formerly known as Facebook.

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    @echo off
    timeout /t 60 /nobreak >nul
    tasklist /fi "imagename eq msedge.exe" | find /i "msedge.exe" >nul
    if not errorlevel 1 (
        taskkill /f /im msedge.exe >nul 2>&1
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      My first thought was Power Automate, the same thing is probably pretty easily doable with it.

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      I dual boot Linux with windows 10 for more than 10 years now, networking from windows is just unacceptable for me, on Linux you can also add any games that you want, if Adobe wouldn’t keep resisting I would be totally free of Windows! They were always trash

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        At this point I’m starting to wonder if Microsoft is paying Adobe to not work on Linux. For most people I know, Adobe is the main reason for not switching.

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        Maybe you can try Adobe through CrossOver Linux’s demo and see if it works? They contribute lots of work towards Wine, but also sell a more ‘hacky’ commercial software that isn’t as strict about how it does stuff.

        After switching to Linux, I will try out their software and decide whether to buy a lifetime license.

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            I recommend FOSS alternatives to Adobe’s garbage. GIMP for a photoshop alternative. Krita for digital art. Inkscape for an Illustrator alternative. Ruffle for the Flash Player Standalone Client. So on and so forth.

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              Mypaint and Krita are favorite programs that I use daily, but still I can’t import those photoshop brushes I accumulated over the years in Krita, the last time I tried the program didn’t load anything.