I get that it says “flavored juice drink” now, but I was tired and the text is pretty small.

“Fruit snacks” are so much worse. It’s just candy, and inferior in taste and texture to anything made with actual fruit.

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    we have “100% juice” here which can only have fruit concentrate (or puree depending on the fruit) and water. that’s the only kind that i buy. i still have no idea why you would add sugar to fruit.

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      This shit isn’t even labeled as juice. All it says is “passion fruit.” I guarantee it looks like Kool Aid. This is gas station shit.

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    From the UK have to ask, why do Americans put up with corn syrup in absolutely everything? Like seriously fruit juice has to have it??

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      Some juices aren’t sweet enough on their own, cranberries being a major example. For those juices, some sweetener is added.

      If the consumer doesn’t care, it is high fructose corn syrup because it is cheap. If consumers do care, they will claim it is 100% juice and use apple juice as the sweetener since apple juice is relatively cheap and neutral tasting.

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    Part of this I believe can be attributed to labelling rules. Only the concentrate portion can be called juice.

    When it is made from concentrate the reconstituting water is the main ingredient. What’s shitty is that water gets more and more sugar/HFCS mixed in so less concentrate is used. Getting it down to 10% or less like that: it’s just flavoring the corn.

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      We would never not sell you the stuff we take from the mother Earth and, old fashioned way, give you the green soylent, mmm, like Mom used to make

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    Simply Apple Juice is pretty clean and I don’t think there are added sugars if you like apple juice.

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      Still plenty unhealthy, sugar is absorbed way faster than just eating an apple.

      But yeah still more healthy than something that contains HFCS as second ingredient (and thus after water the highest contributing ingredient…)

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          You might’ve heard of it, there’s something that is called water, probably the healthiest you can drink. Otherwise you could eat multiple apples but at some point it gets unhealthy again (still contains quite a bit of fructose…)

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    USA? Most drinks here in Canada don’t contain HFCS.

    Edit: didn’t read the thread first, seems like I’m on topic.

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    Such a fucking scam. I’m ok with “juice from concentrate”, but this is literally more HFCS than juice. There should be no HFCS in juice; real juice has plenty of sugar all on its own.

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    It is approx 9 teaspoons of sugar per 300ml bottle. Typical tea cup mug is 250-300ml. Imagine putting 9 teaspoons of sugar in your tea or coffee. Fucking gross.

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      That’s exactly how I like my coffee and is the reason I don’t drink coffee. I love the smell and it’s great in desserts, but miss me with drinking steaming bitter piss. So glad I don’t have a caffeine dependency.

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        Give it a year with the way your country is massively declining. Soon the FDA will classify straight sugar water is “juice”.

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          In the country where pizza is a vegetable, you’re probably not far off. Soon enough they’ll all be drinking Brawndo and water will be known only for being in toilets.

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      What Canada doesn’t tell you is that they permit 10 Micrograms of Beaver Essence in all products.

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        Doesn’t matter…lemon juice is acidic and cane sugar, or sucrose will undergo acid hydrolysis to glucose and fructose in an hour after bottling.

        Idiots importing Mexican coke should have paid more attention in grade 10 chemistry.

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      Canadian nationalism is so strong. I like Canada, but it isn’t the best place on earth. On the internet though, you’d think it’s heaven.

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        it’s how a regular person could look like a model standing next to a cave troll.

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        Lol. So someone posted a couple of pictures showing that juice sold in Canada isn’t full of corn syrup, and your reaction was “wow, such nationalism.” Like fucking what?

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            I just don’t understand the “Canadian Nationalism” angle. It almost seems like there are some accounts here on Lemmy that are trying to sow discord and division.

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              It’s Canadian nationalism because in a conversation where nothing has to do with Canada, a Canadian brings up that Canada has 100% juice. Why bring up Canada? Why be disingenuous and act like Canada doesn’t have bullshit with HFCS too? The US also has 100% juice. Some Canadians on the internet always feel the need to compare themselves to Americans for seemingly no reason other than misguided nationalism showing superiority. It’s just pointless nationalism. You immediately went ad hominem that I have a shitty soul that doesn’t know peace and accused me of being a bot. It’s insane how quickly you jumped to that. Please insult me some more to prove your superiority. If my comment sowed discord and division, you need to toughen up—I even said I like Canada! The Canadian comment’s purpose was division. Get a grip.

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              Yeah absolutely. Best case that’s a real person that is salty their government lets businesses poison their customers and they are going to disparage any other government that protects their citizens in even the smallest way.

              Not to say that fructose is poison per se, just that regulations around food, food advertising, labeling etc are very good to have.

              I feel bad for OP, the convenience fruit drinks that are available here are mostly real fruit juice.

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          Do you actually think you can’t get 100% juice in the US? It’s pretty ridiculous to bring the US/Canada comparison into the conversation in the first place. Just like you can get Flavored Juice Drink in Canada, too.

          And yeah, it’s that mindless Canadian nationalism that is commonplace on the internet. Sorry I struck a nerve, but it is what it is.

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            Bro you’re a dingdong. In fact, your point is so silly that I’m pretty sure that you’re either a bot or some sort of really sad and/or pathetic agitator. In the off chance that you’re not, I hope you get what you need and find some peace. Have a good night bro.

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    Unless you’re looking for Apple or grape juice specifically, this is what you get. I’ve long decided to avoid juices as a result. If I want a sugar water packet, I just pack a honeycrisp apple, orange, Asian pear, plum, or a slightly overripe bartlett pear.

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      Disagree, I was able to find the local grocery store’s store branded 100% fruit juice in cranberry, apple, grape, and pomegranate. It’s just a regular grocery store too.

      They even had the welch’s 100% juice varieties.

      Now that being said I had to pay real close attention to the labels to select the right juice, but the good stuff is still out there

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        For myself, it depends on where I look and what store I’m in. Sometimes the international section can get me soursop juice. Locally owned stores have a better chance of variety.

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        They are, however, made of the fruit they’re named after with little sugar added. That 8oz is about half a pound, and half a pound of grapes is calorically comparable. I’d guess that the apple/juice situation is similar but it’s harder to ascertain because of variation.

        We’ve cultivated tree candy, and I can’t see it any other way.

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        I have an apple tree at home and I’ve tried to make apple juice. It’s absulte rancid if you don’t add tons of sugar. Clearly there’s better kinds of apples for this, but those are also more expensive. So for the stakeholder’s sake, lets add some sugar to the cheap apples and make more profit.

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    Cheap fruit drinks have been this way for the last half century, probably longer.

    There’s not going to be a major health difference between chugging this shit and fruit juice in terms of how much sugar you’re taking in, your body doesn’t really care where the sugar comes from, it acts the same inside you. An 8 ounce glass of Welche’s Corn Syrup versus an 8 ounce glass of fresh squeezed orange juice are both going to be basically 8 ounces of candy. The orange juice just has more vitamin C and maybe some pulp to slow down the sugar spike in your blood if that’s an issue for you.

    “Real” fruit juices might have added vitamins or even some amount of fiber, but fruit juice is generally not a healthy drink. It’s an alternative to other things like soda or alcohol but you don’t reach for a fruit juice bottle for daily hydration. Drink more water, then whatever sweet treats you want on occasion.

    A fresh piece of fruit is a bit healthier because it has all those vitamins and minerals and fiber which is good for you, and the fiber content slows down the rapid sugar digestion. But again, it’s all carbohydrate calories, that’s the area you should be focused on more than if something is “natural.”

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      My problem is mostly that HFCS tastes like ass. I was expecting it to be a blend of apple juice, pear juice, and a hint of passion fruit.

      The health aspect is more about always keeping an easy to access non-beer thing in my fridge.

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        I’ve heard great things about flavored sparkling water as a beer-alternative, unsweetened or lightly sweetened. I can’t recommend quitting drinking enough. It gets harder and harder to break the habit and makes you have a great big ol’ belly that won’t go away easily. (Fruit juice and other carbs will do the same thing. Sugar belly sucks.)

        Wine was my poison for many years, does the same thing. I now just drink a lot of water at night.

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        What’s crazy to me is how the alternatives are often the same price.

        Buying Jelly (for peanut butter and jelly), 95% of the garbage out there uses HFCS. Then you have a few all natural ones with 3 ingredients and there’s no difference in pricing. But apparently people aren’t paying attention.

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          YMMV it seems like the “natural” product is 2x the price of the “store brand.”

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      It’s an alternative to other things like soda or alcohol

      More like “something to add to alcohol”. That’s just about the only time I drink juice. Sugary drinks just aren’t it for me.

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    There’s juice that’s literally labelled in big huge text 100% juice, not from concentrate on the front of the bottle.

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      which is also not good for you, just to be clear.

      one of my new years rezzies was to eat more fruit and it’s been actually really enjoyable. Fresh mango, pineapple, cherries, grapes…

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        “not good for you” is relative. Heavily dependent on individual case by case and against what standards. Sure, there are many better alternatives. But I’d argue there are even many more worse ones.

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      You can even go to the produce section and get relatively fresh made juices and smoothies, pasteurized and safe and in almost any flavor you want.

      If you want to pay $1.50 for a half gallon, then yeah you’re going to get that 10% shit.

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      and it’s expensive! So a treat, and I like to mix it with sletzer water to help savor it and not sugar bomb myself!

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    Pure passion fruit juice would probably cost you 10-20$ per liter and it would be waaay too concentrated.

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      You can cut strong juice with other juice instead of with water and HFCS. Mixing passion fruit and orange juice at a level where it still mostly tastes of passion fruit makes something nice and not so expensive that it has to be sold at a different price to other orange juice.

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        Apple and pear juice are common for cutting an otherwise overpowering (or expensive) juice.

        If you’re Ocean Spray, you might use “with 2 other juices”. Yes, it actually uses those words on the package.

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        Yes definitely, but from OPs context it seemed like they wanted a juice ready to drink.

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          Pre-mixed 100% juice drinks are readily available (depending on where you live). You don’t have to buy several juices and mix them yourself if you’re thirsty when walking past a shop as long as the shop stocks them.