• SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
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    A poll came out the other day that put Mamdani +49 (that’s not a typo +49) in New York. People are waking up, all the propaganda in the world cannot change people’s mind when they see someone fighting for their material interests.

    I’ve been in this fight since Bernie in 2016 there are people who’ve been in it much much longer than me.

    We are winning…

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      in NYC, but i dont see any other cities having a smilar situation. thats why the DNC and gop stop attacking him on MSMs, they dont want to inflame and spread his influence. Walz in minnesota has pretty much lost favor due to how weak he has become in light of the ICE attacks.

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        I heard some inside baseball that Walz might not have been as comfortable passing the far-left legislation that came out of MN over the last few years as we previously thought. I’m hoping Jesse Ventura will get back in there and do a better job when Walz term is up.

        It’s certainly harder to organize outside of places like NYC, and there aren’t many places like NYC in this country. But I don’t see why people wouldn’t respond similarly to having their material interests served by government if people manage to organize for such a candidate.

        When FDR was passing the new deal he won 4 landslides in a row across the entire country. Why wouldn’t people respond similarly today? (Besides the fact they passed term limits to stop a similar situation.)

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      I’ve been fighting since Gore “lost” in 2000. It’s never felt like winning.

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        Firstly…

        I completely agree that it has never “felt” that way. My point was that we need to stop and intellectually consider where we have been and where we are. If you slow down and think for a second you can see that some progress has been made.

        Secondly… and please don’t take this as an attack.

        Notice that I didn’t say Hilary lost, I said Bernie lost. The fact that you said Gore lost, as opposed to Nader lost suggests to me that you weren’t yet apart of the fight I was referring to in the year 2000. You were still a reactionary at that point, you were still thinking in terms of harm reduction or partisan politics, rather than an affirmative vision for what could serve the material interests of everyday average working people.

        If you now have an affirmative vision — beyond blindly supporting whatever the Democratic Party does — that too is progress.

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          @[email protected] made me realize I take solace in the fact I’ll never feel like we’ve won or are satisfied with the state of governments. Yes, plenty of countries have great safety nets and protection for their civilians, but it’s still nothing compared to my dream of an idealized world. That long list of desires for a peaceful existence will just never get filled, but I continue aiming for it regardless with whatever time I have here.