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minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up15arrow-down2·1 month agoIn the most abstract sense: Is organisation without authority possible?
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down6·1 month agoIn a concrete sense, yes
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down1·1 month agoNo it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down5·1 month agoWhat appeals to you about that text?
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down1·1 month agoHow authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down8·1 month agoA short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples. Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.
minus-squaretechpeakedin1991@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up8·1 month agoEmpirical examples… that you have not provided?
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down8·1 month agoIt’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.
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In the most abstract sense: Is organisation without authority possible?
In a concrete sense, yes
No it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
What appeals to you about that text?
How authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
A short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples.
Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.
Empirical examples… that you have not provided?
It’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.