That’s fucking bullshit. 20 years ago, those were just basic things to ask when they say “Do you have any questions for us?” And applicants were actively encouraged to do so by jobs coaches.
If they don’t want people to negotiate their contracts, they should say “Requirements: willing to be exploited and blindly obedient; push-overs preferred.”
It’s common practice now. I’ve been interviewing for over 4 months, and ask these kinds of questions every time (except for the salary). Over a dozen interviews, and not once has there been even a hint of relucrance to respond.
You shouldn’t have to ask about the salary because that should have been in the job advertisement. Why would anyone even apply for a job if they don’t know what it pays?
They do this because the job seeker is already invested, and doesn’t have the time to ponder well their choice, or speak about this with someone else.
They must choose on the spot, and having already invested time. They’ll often accept much lower than they would have otherwise.
For the hirer, it pays off on the long term despite the time they also invest. It’s thousands, even sometimes tens of thousands of dollars saved each year.
I also don’t apply to jobs that don’t show the salary in the posting. But I used to when I was desperate.
Generally they beat me to it - either it’s posted in the ad, or your asking rate is in the application questions. I do usually wait to ask until later in the process, though - employers can be pretty unreasonable about asking about salaries in general
Agreed. I’ve been the one giving a lot of interviews. I’m a little concerned when people don’t ask these sort of questions and tend to volunteer answers in that case. Any company with this attitude is an absolute joke and a total dumpster fire.
That’s fucking bullshit. 20 years ago, those were just basic things to ask when they say “Do you have any questions for us?” And applicants were actively encouraged to do so by jobs coaches.
If they don’t want people to negotiate their contracts, they should say “Requirements: willing to be exploited and blindly obedient; push-overs preferred.”
It’s common practice now. I’ve been interviewing for over 4 months, and ask these kinds of questions every time (except for the salary). Over a dozen interviews, and not once has there been even a hint of relucrance to respond.
Op dodged a crap company
You shouldn’t have to ask about the salary because that should have been in the job advertisement. Why would anyone even apply for a job if they don’t know what it pays?
Not a thing in continental Europe unfortunately… On the other side, interviewers don’t mind the question at all ime
It’s a huge waste of everyone’s time, including the hiring company, to get to the interview stage only to find out the pay is too low. So stupid.
They do this because the job seeker is already invested, and doesn’t have the time to ponder well their choice, or speak about this with someone else.
They must choose on the spot, and having already invested time. They’ll often accept much lower than they would have otherwise.
For the hirer, it pays off on the long term despite the time they also invest. It’s thousands, even sometimes tens of thousands of dollars saved each year.
I also don’t apply to jobs that don’t show the salary in the posting. But I used to when I was desperate.
You don’t ask about salary? I hope that means you had that discussion before the interview and not that you’re just hoping it’s worth your time
Generally they beat me to it - either it’s posted in the ad, or your asking rate is in the application questions. I do usually wait to ask until later in the process, though - employers can be pretty unreasonable about asking about salaries in general
Agreed. I’ve been the one giving a lot of interviews. I’m a little concerned when people don’t ask these sort of questions and tend to volunteer answers in that case. Any company with this attitude is an absolute joke and a total dumpster fire.
Run like the wind if you ever see a job still boast about company culture being like “being in a family”