• wildflower@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    At this point in time, anyone left on the platform formerly known as Twitter, is either a fascist, or at least think that fascism isn’t that big a deal.

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      2 months ago

      That’s complete and utter nonsense.

      There are groups of people using it that have no contact with politics or anything out of their sphere of interest. I am in a couple of such groups.

      I would love to go somewhere else and I am on lemmy, mastodon even bluesky, but there are no such communities there.

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        2 months ago

        that have no contact with politics

        Ergo they are not against fascism. Which means they are OK with it, because they don’t care either way.
        Good job, you just helped prove the point.

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          2 months ago

          I understand you are hurt and angry.

          But you have to understand there are people out there from all around the world, that have no desire to observe the grotesque circus of american politics. You are in your own bubble of people that think the world has ended, but most people in the world have different worries and concerns.

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            2 months ago

            I understand you are hurt and angry.

            That’s ad hominem.

            But you have to understand there are people out there from all around the world

            That doesn’t change anything, whatever country you are from, using Xitter means you are using and thereby supporting a fascist platform.

            You are in your own bubble

            OK, and which bubble is that?
            Seems to me that the ones in a bubble are those that continue to use Xitter, oblivious to it supporting fascism, or accepting that it does. Now THAT’s being in a bubble.

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              2 months ago

              I don’t have any skin in this game but just want to point out that “I understand you are hurt and angry” is an attempt to empathize with you, and not an ad hominem fallacy.

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                2 months ago

                He/She doesn’t understand anything, he/she doesn’t know me.

                If the comment was along the lines of: I understand IF you are hurt and angry, it would be different and not presumptuous. But that he continues with: “But you have to understand…” Like he is talking to a child, confirms the interpretation of an ad hominem IMO."

                But thanks for pointing out a possibly poorly worded good intention. But the way he wrote it, it looks like an ad hominem to me.

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                  2 months ago

                  You don’t just get to call any words that you don’t like, or even words directly attacking you, an ad hominem. A statement is only an ad hominem if 1) it’s attempting to refute an argument 2) by attacking the character/motive of the person making the argument INSTEAD OF the actual content of the argument. “Your argument is wrong because you’re an idiot” is an ad hominem. What the other commenter said to you is not. Note that people claiming “ad hominem” on statements that are not are sometimes said to be committing an “ad hominem fallacy fallacy.”

                  https://laurencetennant.com/bonds/adhominem.html