This one has been making the rounds, and I have to say, we need to consider that maybe the answer is The Last Stand is a very bad movie.
Look it’s exceptionally bad, but it does have Gandalf politely rejecting wolverines offer of a free surgical examination.
The best response came right afterwards
I feel like having five dicks would be kind of cumbersome and much more difficult to use than just 1. Like, how do you aim when you pee?
Just tape them together, like a fleshy gattling gun
I think these people exist, based on my observations of the toilets at my current workplace
I always hated this plot line in these movies. No one has any empathy for the struggles Rogue is going though. Everyone else can be both a living weapon and have a normal life, but Rogue has to choose. If you wanted to framed this as trans metaphor, everyone else looks like a bunch of bigots. Honestly, the more and more you breakdown what Xavier is doing, the more and more he just looks like a different kind of villain. Seriously, how many of the mutants powers ever get explored for non-combat reasons? If this was just about adults, it’d be one thing, but this guy is in charge of children who are being kept away from their parents.
But nope, in Storm’s eyes, Rogue is perfect just the way she is. As a living weapon.
I think this may have been were I started thinking there’s something wrong with Hollywood and comic book writers.
Seriously, how many of the mutants powers ever get explored for non-combat reasons? If this was just about adults, it’d be one thing, but this guy is in charge of children who are being kept away from their parents.
We do see glimpses here and there, but most of it takes background to the fighting, or is shortly ended because the school blew up, the rest of humanity ordered a genocide on all Mutants, and got caught in the crossfire, etc.
I feel like that X-Men could benefit from taking a leaf off of Transformers, and having a series set up after peace was made, when everyone’s trying to readjust to peacetime, and deal with all of that.
But nope, in Storm’s eyes, Rogue is perfect just the way she is. As a living weapon.
In fairness, Storm is shown to be wrong in saying that there’s nothing wrong with Rogue in the rest of the movie, and that she doesn’t need to be cured.
The tone of the movies always felt off. Someone, anyone should have called out Storm and sided with Rogue’s choice. Even if they disapprove of what Storm is saying, they just silently sat there.
Lmao i didn’t even get past “kills everything she touches” without my adhd brain flying away and imagining how sad and lonely she must be and how on order to have human touch, she’d have to find somebody either incapable of dying or who can realive themselves. Like a living-dead girl. Also I assumed she was gay for some reason.
You should definitely check out this 20 page short comic: https://imgur.com/gallery/wolverines-job-isnt-always-easy-to-do-I71V6
It’s basically that, and Wolverine goes in because his regeneration keeps him alive
(Edit: From Marvel’s Ultimate X-Men Vol. 1 #41)
Jesus CHRIST. There was no other solution? I get the pragmatism, but… Fuck. This is like an actual mercy killing.
I’m not a big comic fan (I’ve only read small snippits like this), but this is from the “ultimates” storyline, which to my understanding is an alternate universe where things are… much bleaker than normal Marvel
Damn, that’s a good comic. Dark superhero comics are definitely my thing; Worm/Ward (Parahumans universe by Wildbow, online fiction) are good recommendations if anybody likes this sort of thing
Like Logan?
Wolverine? He can die, can’t he? He’s just really really hard to kill, to my knowledge, and just regenerates really really fast. But if she touches somebody and they instantly die… That won’t make much difference. Unless he’s ACTUALLY immortal, rather than just effectively/virtually immortal and just really really hard to kill.
There’s a comic in which he gets annihilated and regenerates from a single surviving cell. Or from the ashes, or something. In any car, I remember it implying that his power exists beyond his physical body, because when he regenerates he isn’t a mental infant - he still had his memories, even though his brain was destroyed.
However.
In the super-hero genre there’s a tenancy to one-upmanship. Later artists amplify the powers of the character more and more until they are like unto gods. Superman may be the best example of this; in one series he goes and hangs out at the center of the sun for a few centuries and comes out omnipotent. If you go back to his roots in the mid-century, he was a super man, but not a god. Wolverine kept getting more and more powerful as the decades went on, until that arc where he regenerates from a single cell. I don’t think the original creator imagined him being that indestructible.
Her touch isn’t instant death, but it’s fast enough that it makes no difference to most people. His regeneration can keep up, but barely. And at the end of the first movie, he does touch her.
Except her power is to take other people’s powers. Theirs stops working shortly after contact is made. His regeneration might help for a few seconds… Until it stops working because she stole it.
It has been a while since I’ve seen the movie, so I looked it up to make sure. Her power is to borrow other people’s powers through physical contact. Essentially, if contact is short and he can regain his power fast enough (which he does), he’s fine. Those few seconds his regeneration helps with are all he needs.
That doesn’t do a whole lot to help with the touch issue this entire thread was about. When people talk about wanting human touch, they don’t mean just a half second tap.
Yeah, and all the cure-framing is fucked, but they failed to show this. They are mutants, so changing them into ordinary humans means at least re-writing all the cells in the body, which is way more drastic a change than what we now know as gender transition. This kind of changes is not a fucking cure, it is mutation of different kind, in the terminology of this universe
They are mutants, so changing them into ordinary humans means at least re-writing all the cells in the body, which is way more drastic a change than what we now know as gender transition.
Especially as for some of them, their Mutations are required for them to be compatible with life. You can’t meaningfully change that without risking death or serious injury.
It’s also rarely shown with much nuance. The cure more or less ends up being portrayed as a way to eradicate Mutants entirely, with the implication that it’ll be mandated, rather than as a way to improve quality of life for those with mutations that could harm it, like the one kid who destroyed all organic matter in the radius of a few kilometres, rather than a weaker one to limit a Mutation so it won’t cause issues, or remove it if they want.
“I just want a cure to be an OPTION to those who want it.”
“OH SO YOU SUPPORT EUGENICS NOW?!”
Gloves don’t help?
But what if she touches herself? Her power has a exception rule? She can’t exploit that?
She kills by sucking the life out of people. If she sucked the life of herself, it would just be replaced by itself.
