• hightrix@lemmy.world
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    It is the same.

    Big communities suck.

    Small communities are great if you are part of the in crowd, if not it sucks.

    Mods suck.

    Admins really suck.

    The content is the same, just a day behind.

    It is the same.

    Yet we scroll and enjoy it.

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    I joined, hoping that it is way less censored than reddit. Is that the case? Nowadays you can’t say shit in the “social platforms” if it hurts someone. I want to be able to say what In think and read what others have to say even if it hurts my feelings / views.

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      I want to be able to say what In think and read what others have to say even if it hurts my feelings / views.

      I promise you, after two days moderating an actual large discussion forum, you will implement sweeping rules about who can say what about who. The only places people enjoy chatting anymore are places that are moderated.

      We can complain about youtube and facebook taking down messages critical of power or corporations, but places like Lemmy are managed by people. It’s not censorship, it’s going into someone’s house and abiding by their rules. It’s a whole other topic if what you want to read/say is popular enough that you can find someone’s “house” that centers around that topic and is also large enough to have meaningful interactions.

      And if you’re looking for debate, that shit is dead.

      The fact that every community is now insular and bubbled echo-chambers is a result of human tendencies, we gave people total freedom on the internet and instead of using it to learn more and include more people in more conversations, our instincts turned the place into a curdled honeycomb of walled-off communities which were ripe for the plucking by corporate interests.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      You get banned for random views though. In particular lemmy.world is heavy on the censorship.

      If lemmy gets more popular then corporate influenced mods will appear.

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        The benefit of lemmy being that instances can and do block communities that don’t fit their vibe. So once lemmy gets big enough that quality starts taking a hit, and corpos smell blood in the water, other instances can just fork off. It’s already kind of like that too. Whereas with reddit, you can’t tell what sub a person originally signed up for, sure you can go through history but with lemmy you can see what instance a person belongs to, which can give you a slight idea of the ideals that person might hold. Some instances may, for better or worse, have certain reputations.

        Plus with being able to see a users mod history and whatnot. Lemmy has a lot more to offer and its still growing. it’ll likely split over time but basically be the same. It is very different from reddit though, more like if forums and twitter had a baby.

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        That’s why I switched from .world. Being the biggest target makes them more averse to offending corporations.

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    From what I’ve experienced, it feels toxic in a bizarre liberal, Linux-nerd white knight kindof way. Which I think almost wraps back around to not being toxic at all and just feeling friendly in a passive aggressive way? Like going to a computer convention held on a hot, sunny beach. Sure, every here mostly agrees and likes the same geeky stuff but we can easily be too cranky about it, one way or another. Lemmy seems way more likely to engage in real conversation in comments and not just one-line jokes than Reddit. People seem more passionate about their hobbies or viewpoints. More likely to help if asked directly and detailed in response. It’s a cool place!

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    I’ve been trying to figure out if there are fewer bots here. I think there are. If there’s any substantive difference between the two that’s it.

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    Systematically the same. Different weight shift (views and interests). Smaller userbase also makes it a bit different, but will become more similar with more users.

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    Fairly different hivemind here, I think. Still annoying at times but for different reasons. Individuals seem more likely to engage on a topic though. Maybe without instantly thinking you’re their enemy.

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      It took me a bit to understand this. I was so used to expecting negativity that i thought non-negative comments were being sarcastic.

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      “hivemind” is such a stupid bullshit concept. the only people who use it just don’t like being disagreed with. if you use the term “hivemind” you might as well be a reddit conservative

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        I don’t think hivemind is a bullshit concept. It’s another word for gregarian behavior. The observed dominance of a single point of view, amplified by the underlying system of upvotes that brings a visibility bias to already popular points of view.

        Isn’t that what we call the hivemind ?

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          Congrats on being an exception to the penulatimate part of your comment then? My point is that “hivemind” is already a thought-terminating cliche. If you’re using it while seeking in-depth conversation, what do you expect to get? Hence me saying you “might as well be” such as such – which is very different from treating you like an enemy. Seems like you gave a bit of that hostility back though! And why? Because this conversation revolves around a thought-terminating cliche like “hivemind”.

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    Lemmy is full of tankies and Linux nerds. It’s a different kind of toxic to what you’d experience over on Reddit.

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    On reddit the conservative subs don’t allow discussions or debates. On Lemmy the leftist subs don’t allow discussions or debates.

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    Similar but distinct. Much further left for one thing.

    Also, the average level of tech knowledge here is off the charts. Like I feel like a caveman and in my office I’m the one people to go through for help. Never felt like that on Reddit.

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      fellow in-between, how can we describe ourselves? the one that everyone comes to for tech support (eg we know how to ctrl+v) but around actual programmers we just stare blankly.

      I tried to create an account on db0 and the application wanted to know my favortie OSS creator or something, I just told them i have no idea what that means but I’ll be nice. if we had a word for what we are, I’d have used that!

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        We also asked for your favourite anarchist or pirate. We’re not just techie :)

        In case you didn’t know, OSS stands for Open Source Software, like Firefox, Linux, Lemmy etc ;)

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      I feel the same way about it. There was a time when reddit, at least large parts of it, was a fairly decent place. That gradually changed, for a lot of different reason, until it became the mess it is now.

      Lemmy feels more like the early reddit, before everyone gave up on real interactions and basic civility. We have our own problems, but the decentralized model tends to work in our favor instead of against us. Any given community, or even site, can still go to hell if the participants want it to and the moderators/admins allow it. The difference is that other communities and sites are not automatically dragged down along with it.

      I think it also helps that a lot of the folks here have seen things go wrong, on reddit and elsewhere, and want to do better. There is a world of difference between skepticism and cynicism. So far, we seem to be mostly coming down on the right side of that. It’s amazing how much better things are when you treat others as human beings and don’t assume that nothing really matters.

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        half of the site has been overrun by russian bots, now its israeli, and Palintir bots.