In my opinion, AI Slop is content made with AI that is low effort. People feel and know the quality of something, and if it feels like slop, it feels like slop.
AI being used is not a deal breaker for me as long as the product is good. AI isn’t magic and it takes skills and knowledge to use it and to judge what the model outputs.
You may see it differently however, some might believe that the use of any AI tools whatsoever turns any app into slop the moment the first commit with AI code in it is made.
What do you think, what does AI Slop mean to you?
plagiarism implies a benefit to the plunderer, though. It’s perfectly legal to take images from the internet for your own use - e.g. a sonic the hedgehog themed birthday party for a kid.
It is the AI companies who used the images for training in the first place who are the plagiarisers. People using the AI are just using a plagiarising tool made by plagiarisers. Whether they are fine with that is entirely up to their own conscience.
If that is truly the case, then it wouldn’t matter what anyone else thinks is or isn’t slop.
I mildly disagree. I think its an interesting discussion.
i also think that. and i love having that discussion with people. like, remember the google robot that drew dogs on every picture you fed it? deepdream, i think it was called? was that evil? because it’s the same tech, just trained on… dogs.
That’s okay, you can disagree if you like. It’s not like you’re responsible for the creation, upkeep, and various abuses resulting from, this modern pseudo-AI stupidity. You’re just a useful idiot to them.
i don’t think you should start calling third parties useful idiots, i’m the one who started this.
I’m not calling them anything. That’s just how the techbros view anyone who uses and defends their slopmachine scam.
surely a useful idiot is one who furthers the message and aids in its spreading?
Correct. If you “mildly disagree” that using the mass-plagiarism-powered so-called “AI” is plagiarism from the getgo, you’re being an idiot and advancing the techbro oligarch agenda. I will not respect it. I will not have an overtly polite conversation about it. They are fucking destroying the environment and our living spaces with this shit. Stop using it. Stop defending it. If you disagree, I don’t want to hear from you. There’s nothing to discuss.
i mean i agree about all the stuff about plagiarism, concentration of power, usage of limited electricity and water and land, mental effects etc. i’ve expressed as much before. the thing i think is interesting to discuss is that, given that there’s already a generation of old pre-trained models, and that there’s no fossil fuel generation in my country, and that i’m doing this rather than playing a game, which uses the same amount of power, and that i’m not sharing results, just making personal scrapbook stuff… is that more immoral than just pirating movies or music?
that’s not supposed to be a trick question, i genuinely don’t know. i’ve always been of the opinion that media empires shouldn’t make money from me but artists absolutely should, and that’s why i generally pay indie artists but not big labels. here, i use three- or four-year-old model files which i’ve not paid for, on my own hardware that’s completely offline so no data is provided to the big companies. i always recommend against using online commercial models and i refuse to do it myself because of the things you mentioned, but… is what i do the same?