Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs
Updated with correct link
People who can’t figure out their power settings are shipping software. We’re so fucked.
I mean… I’m almost glad they haven’t figured out the power settings. Imagine if they were all running around with the lids closed and the laptops stuffed into a backpack? It would be a fire waiting to happen.
You’re saying it like it’s a bad thing.
Why should I have to die in a plane crash because some idiot vibe coder’s laptop overheated and caught fire during the flight? So yes, it is a bad thing.
“Fires on airplanes” is, in general, a BAD THING.
Idk depends on the airplane at this point.
best case scenario you spew a bunch of toxic shit into the already stressed atmosphere.
Surely the CPU would force an instant shutdown if it detected dangerously high temperatures?
I was thinking more about the batteries. It’s probably not as big of a deal with such small batteries, but lithium ion batts can enter an “uncontrollable, self-heating state” called thermal runaway. https://ul.org/research-updates/what-is-thermal-runaway/
Yes, but our gear should have sensors that know when thermal transfer is sustainably going to impact the batteries.
They do, but It’s sort of like what happens when you take a hot steak off the pan. The extrernal heat source is removed, but the steak has enough internal heat to continue cooking for a bit while it rests. Your laptop might shut down, but the whole thing being in a backpack would act as an insulator and allow it to continue heating.
yes you are right and everyone else is a little uneducated for thinking this could actually be a fire risk
You sound fun at parties. Circular firing squad, much?
Fwiw, several generations of Windows notebooks have suffered from nasty sleep bugs where they wake themselves up from sleep, and drain their batteries while clamshelled in a book bag. Used to happen with my work Dells almost monthly. Microsoft’s announced win11 fix for it is one of the loudest and most venerated I’ve heard, in living memory.
Best I ever got out of the deal was a spicy pillow, no breach, and I’ve been unable to find any articles about any rash of laptop explosions which would have had very high visibility.
It sounds like you have also been as lucky as I have. May we all hope to escape the fires, a little longer.
Right, and this is just waking to run updates or whatever. Imagine what running a local LLM in the same conditions might do.
kek. okay tell that to all the electric vehicle owners who’ve burned to death in random car fires cause by their batteries igniting themselves. also maybe educate yourself a little and read the underwriters lab article I posted.
Considering that they are using pseudo intelligence* write the code I think the power settings is the least of our concerns.
*PI should replace AI as it is a more accurate title
I just translate AI to Anti-Intelligence. 😎
“Actually Indians”
Original is better than clankers but I gladly use both.
I roll with NS “natural stupidity”
Also Idiots
This has been true for 20 years.
Of all the things to compare pre and post AI
This is one that has not changed.
It’s fucking surreal watching these people rise to high positions in tech companies trying to sell the idea that they can replace physicians with their “product”. Have fun with that mate.
They will. It’s cheaper. People will die. Congress will take money from the lobbyists and say there’s nothing they can do.
Its a good thing the tech bros are so inept, our demise will be slowed somewhat
I’ve definitely had windows straight up ignore the power settings before. Granted that was years ago, it’s probably only gotten worse
It does weird things with some but I’ve never seen “lid closed down action” bug. Then again I’m not using laptops that much
You’ve never worked with a dev department obviously.
This is nothing new
corporate blocks most of the settings anyway
Anyone with half a working brain in computer tech would know that, if you really need something to be kept on, but checked regularly, it becomes a fucking server that you connect to using different equipment. But that’s too high tech for vibe-whatevers.
“I think people think I’m whatever the equivalent of an iPad kid is for a middle-aged woman,” one AI user said.
Ackshually, we think you’re an absolute fucking idiot.
Also - ffs, they can’t even disable sleep in system settings???
Kids today are braindead
Amen. what’s so fucking difficult about screen/tmux and a ssh connection?
For them? I’m willing to bet literally everything
Figures they don’t know how to keep their laptops awake while the lid is closed lmao
This is the first setting I changed on every laptop I ever owned. So often I had stuff running in the background and didn’t want it to sleep. Plus, windows had that stupid fucking sleep bug, so usually I’d use hibernate anyways.
I disabled sleep-on-close for my server laptop (I use NixOS btw), although I do prefer to keep it on for my personal laptop.
"Can’t you just disable sleep on close? " You really think they have technical competence for such?
Oh shit, that’s a great idea! I’m surprised claude didn’t suggest it first. /S
You can, and you can also have the disabled sleep on close implementation screw up, have unintended consequences and weird behaviors. Half open lid? You know what you’re getting.
Caffeine exists
Oh bro your laptop was open, I closed it so it wouldn’t eat up all your battery.
You’re giving them too much credit. They’re afraid their chatbot will suffocate if they close those lid all the way.
What really worries me about this article is this very dystopian idea that you’re supposed to be “working” 24/7, no breaks ever.
Even when you’re out with your kids, why are you present in the moment instead of working? Open your laptop, go work.Wasn’t all the marketing abour the “AI Future” talking about getting things done faster?
When did that turn into “Work 24/7 so you don’t waste your hourly token limit”? WTF?Also,
The 15-year-old from Bentonville, Arkansas, is a 10th grader who’s building a startup with his 24-year-old cousin. He uses Codex, Claude Code, and OpenCode (paid for with seed money from his parents).
Lul. Lmao. ROFL even.
Yesterday on my way home there was a lemonade stand, 6 boys making great value lemonade for $2 a glass. Two of the kids were turning poorly made signs it was so wholesome if I had $2 on me I’d of stopped just to support them.
Sometimes kids should just start a business instead of a startup. Less disappointment and brainrot
I can’t remember the specifics of it, but I vaugely remember someone pointing out that back in the 70s people assumed that rising productivity meant they’d have to work less. That if the work of a week in 1970 would be the work of three days in 2020, that they’d simply only work those three days. Even if I’m misremembering what was said, I feel like it’s clear to see that rising productivity doesn’t mean we’re going to work any less. Capitalism will just keep squeezing until nothing is left.
Yeah futurists said the same shit about email and smartphones, etc. These were “time saving” productivity tools that would help us all enjoy a better work-life balance. Instead you end up with workers essentially on call 24x7x365.
That was the Jetson’s storyline: George goes to work 3 days a week, 2 hours a day, to sit at a desk and press one button.
Notice that storyline didn’t get repeated much.
Also made enough for a nice floating house, a flying car, and a robot maid.
And still has to deal with rush hour traffic…
Remote work still isnt fully accepted even in the future.
My pet theory is that the jetsons and the Flintstones are in universe, on the same planet, in the same time period. One lives in the clouds, the other on the ground. Where do you think all the raw materials come from? Dinosaur operated quarries
Yeah everyone on the ground making due with bioengineered animals that look like dinosaurs, and no one can afford shoes but it’s ok because everyone has been bioengineered to run really fast and have impervious feet.
on top of that, there is no way they are working on anything so important that can’t take an hour away or whatever. these dopes could also configure yolo mode if they just need to sit there and click “accept” to changes…
I like how they think they’re somehow special for walking around with their laptops open. Business idiots have been doing this forever. It isn’t some new “AI coder” thing. Jane from fucking accounting does this on the way to her meetings too you morons.
Normally I want mine to sleep on close.
Kinda reminiscent of people walking while holding their phones on their palm face up like a slice of bread.
I gotta hide this article. His punchable face on my feed is insufferable.
This was one of the cringiest articles I have ever read.
There is no way this happened lmao.
I lost it at “sorry, I’m using Claude”.
Sf life
The 39-year-old head of product at Raven.AI is a [Claude Code and OpenAI Codex power user. He also has two daughters, ages 12 and 10, who love to ice skate. So, when he takes them to their weekly skating practices, he sits outside the rink and codes with AI.
It’s easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls’ practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.
Sure pal, your work is more important than your kids!
USA makes the world more difficult by pushing people to work more hours and more hours and even more hours, that is turning to a normal thing, which affects the rest of the world bad. Yesterday was AI pushed all over the world, today is war going worldwide. God belss USA and it’s capitalist heads!
This shit reads like an Onion article. Good god.
“coders”
‘AI coders’ specifically.
spits on the ground
How do so many tech people not know about the power settings that can let the laptop run 100% even with the lid closed and on battery power?
Like, how stupid are they? Has AI really atrophied their tech skills that much?
A guy here shared a story about this AI guy his company hired, that was pretty clueless when it comes to basic tasks about his job. When he had to do the same thing a week later, he was still as clueless. Anyway, that made me think that AI people might have trouble learning things, because they just let a data center hallucinate an answer. I have the same thing when i use a navigation system, i don’t really learn the way i go, i just follow an indicator.
I’m not in IT, just a lowly office grunt who is forced to use Windows on their laptop. I know most people here have forgotten that 99% of the working world has to use Windows, so let me remind you how much it sucks.
It doesn’t matter how you change the laptop power settings, Windows will look at your settings and then just do whatever the fuck it wants when the lid closes.
Sometimes it goes to sleep
Sometimes it stays powered on and quietly overheats in your laptop bag.
Sometimes it completely freezes up and forces you to hold down the power button.
Sometimes it just logs you out and does nothing else.
Sometimes it will go to sleep, but the moment you open it back up it decides what you REALLY wanted was to restart.
Changing the settings has no effect on what Windows decides to do.
I know people on this site like to sit on their gilded Linux throne and sneer at all the lowly peons forced to use “Microslop” instead of their clearly superior, self-hosted, FOSS, Linux distro; but it is a real problem with Windows laptops.
I am in IT, and personally speaking, with my own machines, I have never had these power settings not be obeyed.
And the only time when I have seen these settings “not be obeyed” in other systems is because either,
- Someone or some other non-Microsoft software had dicked with power settings through the registry/GPO, or
- I’ve been able to trace things down to hardware malfunctions or hardware discrepancies.
Has AI really atrophied their tech skills that much?
These people never had any skill to begin with. They only have a codebase now because of AI.
“Claude, how do I change power settings on a laptop?”
Thank me later, AI users. ;)
You’re going to need to be a lot more specific
Oh, right. AI users…
ahem
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Yes, a laptop is indeed powered by electricity - you seem very smart
You are not going to like the answer but yes. AI makes humans stupid.
some laptops use the keyboard as an airvent tho
I have seen that type. The keyboard is usually inset a mm or three along with that indent extending to the edges, allowing airflow to continue even when the lid is closed.
So many comments about the power settings thing, but this isn’t about working effectively and efficiently.
You can take AI out of this article and it would be just as sad, but it wouldn’t get the clicks.
This article is either helping push, or documenting the push, that if YOU are a higher tier of worker bee that wants to prove your superior worth to your bound legal entity, AND you want to virtue signal having your head on straight to all the lazy selfish people around you actually being present in the moment, then YOU need ShinyTechBroProduct!
Ohhh all the cool parents are into ShinyTechBroProduct! All the other lame asses who PaId AtTeNtiOn To tHeiR KiDs aren’t going to be the next Elon Jobs now are they!
I’m sorry, you lost me at the ‘Legal Entity’ bit, that one always sounds like SovCit kool-aid. Got to be careful with that one, with so many libertarian crazies afoot.
After the advent of laptops, I tried taking them “out in the world” to work from parks, or airports, or whatever. Yeah, I could get some stuff done like that. No, it wasn’t a great idea. It wasn’t even a slightly good idea. The only “on the road” place that works for me is inside a sailboat in a marina - quieter than home or office, better environment for work. The only “good thing” that came out of road coding? Getting hit on by a curious woman while we were both stuck in SFO waiting for the LAX shuttle that was backed up.
Road coding out in the world? A great way to spend 4x as long to produce code of 1/4th the quality as what you could do in a less chaotic office-like environment.
