No, this came up from talking about how it (the puck) doesn’t have to be connected to the device you’re playing on. Which outside of Bluetooth or using a steam machine, you would have to have it connected.

Directly wired hasn’t come up at all until you just mentioned it.

For one, as far as I know that’s a single player game. Anyone with other players around means constant slight readjustments, and having everything you do held back (even if only a tenth of a second- I don’t know the actual number, that’s a ballpark guesstimate) really adds up.

For almost every game it doesn’t matter a whole lot. But when it does, it really matters. Bluetooth headphones pad the audio a smidge too, to the point of rather play without sound instead of late audio. It causes constant sending guessing, and if you’re using both your leaky playing in a game state that’s already past (although when online you always are anyway but cutting as much out as possible is miles better).

My point (the part I quoted in my original reply) was that you would need the puck plugged into the device you’re playing on, assuming you don’t want to deal with the delay.

So if that’s not a problem for you, then that doesn’t apply, but I assume most people will want the fast connection.

I realize that. But that’s just for that machine, but I’m speaking for arbitrary devices.

The protocol hasn’t gotten faster in the last few years that I know of.

I’ve used several with different devices, but most of my direct comparison experience is with an Xbox series X controller paired to the Deck via BT and by dongle, and it’s very noticeably more laggy with Bluetooth. I’ve only occasionally tried others, but every Bluetooth-connected controller I’ve ever used definitely has a noticeable delay.

No one says that you have to explicitly plug it in to whatever you’re playing on.

You do if you want it to connect to the thing you’re playing on.

Unless you’re ok with a shitty Bluetooth connection. But I’m guessing few people comparatively are using that, at least as their primary use case.

You can’t tell me playing with a Bluetooth controller doesn’t actually hurt you. The constant latency is excruciating.

Then again, I use it for mostly real time- based games.

If you’re playing something like Balatro it probably doesn’t matter. But for almost everything else it sure does.

Personally that’s what I’d like to do anyway. I’m saying that to discuss the growth of the technology among the masses.

Assuming it doesn’t make me violently ill, i like tech and gaming enough to keep it around otherwise. But the potential for the issue and the committal involved off the bat are difficulties for any new, different-enough tech.

Maybe so, but you probably need to enjoy your first exposure to want to drop money on an entire setup for it.

It’s already crazy enough to drop that money just hoping you like it, but if you drop it hoping it stops making you nauseous, that’s a much bigger ask.

I’m still hoping I won’t have that problem. I do get car sick on meandering drives, but not even close to as bad as I did 10-15 years ago, but the worse the drive gets, the more I have to stay staring out the car windows.

I assume the VR effect would be similar, given it’s a similar symptom, but backwards. (In VR you don’t feel motion, but you see it, whereas in a car, you feel it, but either don’t see it from not looking, or if you have wide visibility it looks like you’re not moving as much compared to the background)

I was a pretty big enjoyer of the design of the first Steam controller, so adding a second stick and keeping the touchpads sounds great. Also mine broke, I can’t remember exactly what gave out, but it was just destroyed, and using a touchpad for a second stick felt awkward af.

I didn’t even mind the way it bent “backwards”, the fact that the stick and buttons were tiny, or its weird shape. Actually thinking about it, it was the right trigger that broke and just caved in, Spring broke, plastic tab snapped off, just basically a hole left there. I wasn’t about to attempt a repair, either. I don’t have the skill for that.

Anyway, this looks nice. A lot of people seem to call it ugly, but I don’t get it. Sturdy and functional are a good look, so this looks great. And if it functions just as well as the Steam Deck controls, (and of course it will, since it’s basically the same parts except switching out magnetic sticks instead of regular ones)

Here’s hoping the triggers are better on it. It’s definitely on my radar for next year.

The problem is to really make an informed decision you have to try it first-hand. The sensory experience unlike any other device, so descriptions aren’t super helpful, video doesn’t convey what it’s actually like, so you really have to experience it to understand it.

Also given how common it seems to be anecdotally to get sick from it, no one wants to jump in just to have to jump back out.

And unless you know someone that already jumped in and can try theirs, a lot of people like me just don’t want to commit sight unseen. (I mean I’m also broke, but this would be true anyway)

I don’t have a way to try it out, so until I do it’s not on my radar to care. I’m very curious about it. Even if I don’t like it I do really want to see what it’s like at least once. But I’m not gonna pay for that chance. It’s gotta impress me without effort on my part (more than driving to it anyway).

I support actually doing this.

As in literally taking the money straight out of the billionaire funding pockets. But not in parity with the amounts used for AI funding, I just mean all of it. And not simply “all of it”, but actually all of it, to the point where they’re in soup kitchen lines and panhandling, hoping to get enough to pay for dinner.

Take all that money and put it in science research, charities, etc.

If they can’t get enough from the charities back to keep breathing, then oh well. Sorry people that deserve it got it instead, oh well, we’ll make a note that we’re all doing great on the money that was yours.

Omg I forgot KYM existed.

Thank you

Unrelated, but does anyone know what this disapproving guy is from?

I’m wondering about the source context. I assume he is just an actor from a show, but he’s not familiar to me outside of this kind of meme usage.

And honestly utterly fucking sick of every single person on the internet pretending that they arent the same human being that the rest of us are

I don’t even know what this part means.

As for the rest of it, maybe I’m not using the word “blink” the same way. Your way is probably more correct. I was using a more substantial version than “blink” seems to mean, but maybe that’s just a regional or friend/family group difference.

But for reference, when I hear it used, it’s more in a sense of being shocked to the point of just kinda a brief mental shutdown, during which one would just blink while they process.

That’s just how I’ve heard it used, but on its face it does sound like it should be a much more minor reaction.

In which case, yes, I did blink. But if I had heard it a couple years before that, I would have had a much bigger reaction. Plus the fact that it was becoming more obvious shortly before they came out.

Either way my point was that at that point in my life I was coming out of religion enough that my reaction was more immediately supportive of my sibling rather than reacting negatively toward them in favor of the religious rules I had before.

Man, I think I was an atheist for years before I actually knew it. I disagreed with several things without even noticing for a long time. I’d skip going to church, (hell I would show up sometimes for the beginning and leave just so people would know they saw me that day). I hated LGBT people for a good chunk of it. That kinda stopped after I met some.

Then when someone close to me came out as trans, I didn’t even blink or feel weird about it. But the old beliefs still kinda hovered there for a while still.

That shit is hard to shake when it’s indoctrinated as bad as it was, mostly because of the fact that the fear of hell is reeeeal. It took a movie bringing up the fact that something that I believed was original to the Bible has been around well before it got put into the Bible. That finally shattered holding onto it, and everything else has been catching up ever since.

I’m finally becoming someone I’m not ashamed of.

That started 9 years ago. I still have a group of friends to get back to that tolerate me back then somehow and I need to reintroduce the new me.

He capitalizes almost as badly as Trump.